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Re: Familias de Sagua

alfertj — 2009-11-19 03:44:28Z

A Stephanie Sardina: Cuales son los nombres de los hijos/hijas de Ramiro Alfert con Olga Reigosa, y cual de ellos es tu padre o madre?

Re: Familias de Sagua

sardinastephanie — 2009-11-19 02:13:42Z

Mi Abuelo, Ramiro Alfert y Aroix es el hijo de Ramiro. El esta muy bien (gracias a Dios) y vive en Miami, Florida. Mi Abuela Olga Reigosa antes (Olga Alfert) divorciada de mi Abuelo, murio en Februero con 83 anos un dia antes de su cumpleanos.

Re: Cubans in Savannah, GA. and Fernandina Beach, FL. early-mid 1800s

tmsabrown — 2009-11-17 18:15:59Z

My great-grandmother was a Beranc. Her father was Pierre (Peter). She was named Stella Marie Beranc and was born here in Savannah, Georgia. I never knew that my great-grandmother had siblings. Stella died in the 90's. She had two daughters, Kathleen and Theresa, and a son, John. Both daughters are deceased.

I will try to see if I can find information for you. Stella is buried here in Savannah, as is Pierre. I will try to find out more information on them all.

Re: Jose Noa & Pedro Noa in Palmira, Santa Clara, Cuba

wacpt720 — 2009-11-17 00:36:46Z

My grandfather was born in Cuba, 1901. His name is Jose Luis Noa. He died a week before I was born and have been trying to get info on him and his family.

Re: Castano

suewoolfe — 2009-11-16 21:21:24Z

It's a long time since you posted, but I'm connected to the Castano - Golding family whose Cuban land was also nationalized by Fidel Castro. A Golding, a drummer boy in wellington's army, eloped with Katerina Castanos, and their son emigrated to Australia where I was born.

If any of this is of interest toyou, please contact me.

Sue

Re: Verdugo Family

CubanGenFreak1 — 2009-11-15 23:52:32Z

http://www.cubagenweb.org/founders/fundadores.pdf

En la paghina 29 de la lista de apellidos DE Fundadores de la Isla de Cuba aparece Verdugo, en Baracoa, que " se caso con una sobrina de Diego Velazquez. y paso a Mexico en el Siglo XVI

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Re: The same

alexislopezbujosa — 2009-11-15 23:03:32Z

i am bujosa from lares puerto rico i want to know the relation betwen juan bujosa albreti and jaime bujosa jaume one of 4 brother that went to puerto rico in the 1800 from palmas de mayorca spain thank you for you help i understand that juan bujosa alberti went to puerto rico about the same time thanks again

Re: Del Sol Hernandez-Ramon, Elowina, Estrella, Jorgito=Camequey Cuba=

nayalana — 2009-11-15 08:28:14Z

please contact me I am Estrella Delsol and Roberto Calanas daughter my email is Nayalana@aol.com or Lucky.chase@yahoo.com

Re: Surname Verdugo

CubanGenFreak1 — 2009-11-14 17:28:26Z

Busque en el libro History of the Conquest of Mexico & History of the Conquest of Peru, de William H. Prescott , considerados entre los libros mas completos en ambos temas de su epoca. Escritos el primero en 1843 y el segundo en 1847, han sido considerado como Clasicos.

Verdugo solo aparece en la Conquista de Mejico, no encuentro nada en la del Peru, aunque seria probable que documentos que entonces no fueran faciles de encontrar , hayan sido encontrados posteriormente y asi lo demuestre, porque segun otros documentos ,si habia un Verdugo por Nicaragua y por Cuzco y al parecer era enemigo acerrimo de Pizarro.

Todo esta relacionado con el viaje de Cortes hacia la Conquista de Mexico y a la cual Velasquez, desde Cuba, se oponia, pero Hernan Cortes se le fue en ese viaje, sin su aprobacion , mientras Velasquez trataba de detenerlo en alguna parte de Cuba, lo cual como se sabe, le fue imposible.

En las paginas 142 y 545 del libro que habla de Mejico , hacen referencia a un Verdugo .
Se hace mencion de la carta que el Gobernador Velasquez le envia al comandante de Trinidad, alegando que Cortes habia sido depuesto de su cargo y pedia que lo apresaran y detuvieran , puesto que la flota tenia un nuevo Comandante.
( Velasquez queria la gloria y las riquezas que encontraran para el, no para Cortes.)

Estas instrucciones le fueron comunicadas a los principales de la expedicion, los cuales le advirtieron que no fuera hecho , porque eso ocasionaria un conmocion entre los soldados que muy bien generaria en que la ciudad fuera totalmente convertida en cenizas.

Y agregan : VERDUGO CONSIDERO PRUDENTE SEGUIR EL CONSEJO. (7)

( 7 ) De Rebus Gestis, MS.- Gomara , Cronica, cap. 8. - Las Casas, Hist. de las Indias .MS., cap. 114, 115.

En la pagina 545 mencionan la situacion de desespero de los espan~oles en Mejico , deseosos de dejar aquello y retornar a Cuba, lo cual era imposible por el control de Cortes en todo.
Se considero que eliminar a Cortes solamente no resolveria la situacion , asi que tendrian que eliminar antes a Sandoval , Olid, Alvarado y dos o tres mas devotos de Cortes, y planearon con el mismo Cortes el hacerlo y pensando que despues, en la voragine del momento, eliminarian a Cortes mismo y el resto del Army , se uniria a ellos .
Proponian entonces ofrecerle el cargo de Comandante , una vez muerto Cortes (9) ..a FRANCISCO VERDUGA (sic ), un cun`ado de Velasquez , un honorable Caballero " and not privy to their design"
Ellos casi estaban seguros de que el aceptaria , de algun modo forzado en el y de esa manera tendrian la proteccion del Gobernador en Cuba, con su arraigado odio contra Cortes y que miraria el asesinato con ojos lenientes. No tuvieron exito, por supuesto.

(9) Herrera, Hist. General , dec3,lib. I, cap.15. -Relacion de Alonso de Verzara, Escrivano Publico (sic) de Vera Cruz,MS., dec.21

Aqui vemos entonces que ese Verdugo estaba relacionado con Velasquez, datos que muchos desconocen y se preguntan.

Saludos.

Re: Surname Verdugo

CubanGenFreak1 — 2009-11-14 16:13:40Z

Carlos Verdugo residia en Matanzas en la calle Placido, casi esquina a Navia, era una casa colonial y junto a la puerta de entrada se habia dedicado una placa de bronze conmemorativa.
Los 27 de noviembre de cada an~o, todas las escuelas hacian un acto en su memoria frente a ella.

Re: VIGOA

CubanGenFreak1 — 2009-11-13 15:53:18Z

Buscando otro apellido en las listas publicadas encontre algunos Vigoa.
Puede corroborar esta informacion yendo a: The Cuban Club of Genealogy of Miami , cliquee en Databases y escoja : San Antonio de los Ban~os.

http://www.cubangenclub.org/members/san_antonio_de_los_banos...

En la pagina 165 aparecen 7 Vigoas :

Domingo, Manuel y Miguel Vigoa ( sin el apellido materno ) .

Al lado de Domingo hay una anotacion que dice : " hijo del que era conocido como " El Santo del Wajay".(Murio en 1896 )

Al final de la lista nombran al Santo del Wajay , como residente de Sn. Antonio, pero no dan su nombre de pila y especifican que es el padre de Domingo Vigoa.

Y aparecen tambien en esa lista de Sn. Antonio de los Ban~os:

Antonio; Jose; Julio y Luis, Vigoa y Borges.

En la lista de Bejucal se lee:

http://www.cubangenclub.org/members/Church_archives/cuban_ch...

Go to Sn. Felipe y Santiago Church , Bejucal, Habana, Cuba.

And select by years.....Baptisms and/or Burials

Book IX de Defunciones de Blancos ( 1890-1896 )

Aparece en entierros :

Vigoa y Alfonso, Elena
Vigoa y Collazo, Miguel
Vigoa y Vigoa, Ramon

Libro XI de Entierros de blancos (1897-1914 )
Vigoa Llanes, Catalina

Libro VIII de Entierros de blancos ( 1878-1890 )

Vigoa Blanco, Ana Maria
Vigoa y Vigoa, Maria
Vigoa y Vigoa, Vicenta Belen

Relativo a los Baptisms.

Libro XVIII de blancos (1888-1891 )

Vigoa Fernandez, Jose
Vigoa y Vigoa, Maria Amalia Felicia

Libro XIV de Bautismos (1892-1895 )

Vigoa Fernandez , Severiano Tranquilino
Vigoa Fernandez (Y) Maria Tomasa Josefa

Es (Y) aparece en el libro registrado de ese modo , ¿does it means twins? )

Libro XVI de blancos (1879-1884 )
Vigoa Rubio, Maria Floriana
Vigoa Vigoa , Maria Eloisa

Libro XV de blancos (1874-1879 )

Vigoa Fernandez , Pastor Maria
Vigoa Fernandez, Maria Gabina

Se aprecia por esta informacion que habian Vigoas desde los 1870`s en esa zona, que esta en la provincia de La Habana.

Good luck!

Gene

Re: OCEJO, FERNANDEZ, VALDES

c2ep1960 — 2009-11-12 04:42:41Z

Concepcion is remembered by my mother as a kind and wonderful lady. If you have any questions let me know.

Carlos

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

constance622 — 2009-11-11 00:55:31Z

I don't recognize that name. But the Carlos Simon Fox I am related to is buried in Santiago de Cuba where he died on May 9, 1903.

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

carlosfox1028 — 2009-11-10 18:48:19Z

My name is Carlos Raul Fox. My Father's is Aurelio Jesus Fox. I was born in Havana.

Hope that helps...

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

carlosfox1028 — 2009-11-10 18:48:17Z

My name is Carlos Raul Fox. My Father's is Aurelio Jesus Fox. I was born in Havana.

Hope that helps...

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

carlosfox1028 — 2009-11-10 18:48:16Z

My name is Carlos Raul Fox. My Father's is Aurelio Jesus Fox. I was born in Havana.

Hope that helps...

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

constance622 — 2009-11-10 18:09:21Z

And your father's name?

There is a Ramon N. Fox who stayed in Cuba.

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

carlosfox1028 — 2009-11-10 16:06:53Z

I do not have a tree on line, but give what I have researched, yes, I am named after my Grandfather. Both my parents were born in cuba. My Grandfather's name was also Carlos, but not sure of the middle name. My father was an attorney for Cuba's largest sugar producer before Castro... and came to the US in 1964 via Spain. I have seen pictures of my Grandfather and he is the exact image of what I have seen on line for family members of the Horatio line...

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

constance622 — 2009-11-10 15:38:35Z

I have some, but not all. Your grandfather was Carlos Simon Fox? Family lived in Trinidad de Cuba? His father was Horatio Fox, who married Mercedes Yurubi y Montalvan. Do you have a tree online? Which of Carlos' children are you related to?

Re: Horatio and Mercedes Fox

carlosfox1028 — 2009-11-10 14:35:43Z

I am early in to this research. I was born in Havana, Cuba. My name is Carlos Raul Fox. I was named after my Grandfather (Carlos), who likely has Horatio in his family tree. Have you mapped through the early 1900's ?

Looking for my family i

tooqban — 2009-11-10 06:28:43Z

Hi Im looking for any information on the Vergara,Alvarez family there were i bnelieve three brothers Ignacio,Guillermo and Carlos sons of Francisco Ignacio Vergara and Ansucion Alvarez. any info about my family would really help me out

Re: VIGOA

MackyL — 2009-11-10 01:35:04Z

Hola, estoy ayudando a una amiga a conseguir info. sobre el apellido VIGOA.

Su abuelo se llamaba Sabino Vigoa Curbelo, no estoy segura de si el nacio en Cuba, Un hijo caso en Cuba con una señora de apellido Sanchez. Mi amiga reside desde hace años en California.

Muchas gracias por cualquier info.

Re: looking for Surgidero de Batabano, La Habana, Cuba families

28946 — 2009-11-09 00:30:19Z

My father was from Surgidero de Batabano. His name was Joaquin Freire. He passed away September 2005. His father's name(my grandfather) was Joaquin and his mother's name(my grandmother) was Caridad Diaz.

Apellido Valhuerdi

pejotaescorpion — 2009-11-08 03:29:27Z

Hola:

Mi segundo apellido es valhuerdi, y mi abuelo es tambien d matanzas, espero q nos pongamos en contacto pronto y averiguar q sabemos d nuestro pasado. mi correo es pejotaescorpion@yahoo.com, escribeme cuando quieras.
saludos
PJ

Re: Francisco Cassa

josele34 — 2009-11-07 16:56:05Z

María ¿dónde estás? Soy Josele Curt. Pónte en contacto conmigo en josele34@teleline.es
Un abrazo muy fuerte

Re: Surname Verdugo

csamael1 — 2009-11-06 01:16:58Z

the story is true, it is well documented by the lecture given by the defense lawyer in the triel where Carlos De Jesus Verdugo and others were tried and wrongfully executed.
Cristoval Verdugo came with colon on his second voyage to the new found lands. this too is also documented. Melchor verdugo came to Peru with Cortez and owened many of Perus mines, by force, not by purchasing any of the land. this too is also documented.

carlos verdugo.

Mrs Mary Perez obit 1964

Obits101 — 2009-11-02 02:41:46Z

...from the State of OKLAHOMA, archives:

The Daily Oklahoman
02-04-1964
p.16

MRS MARY PEREZ

Requiem mass for Mrs Mary Perez, 80, of 1821 NW 39, who died
Sunday in a city hospital, will be at 9:30 am Tuesday in
St Patrick's Catholic Church, with burial in Resurrection
Cemetery under direction of Street & Draper Funeral Home.

Mrs Perez was born in Malanzas, Cuba, and came to Oklahoma
City eight months ago.

Survivors include a daughter, Mrs Siomara de La Cruz of
the home.

***posted for genealogical purposes only; no relation***

Re: Familias de Sagua

alfertj — 2009-11-01 21:11:39Z

Segun mi informacion, Magdalena Aroix Etchandi era la esposa de Carlos Alfert Leyva. El padre de ella, Alexis, seria Aroix y la esposa de este seria Etchandi

Josephine Florence Gonzales (Johnson) - Cuba 1880's (Engl)

tinajoh1 — 2009-10-31 14:51:43Z

I am searching for information on Josephine Florence Gonzales or her family from Cuba. She was born May 1, 1806 in Havana, Cuba. She married my Great, Great, Great Grandfather Samuel Johnson on Feb 24, 1822 in Fernandina, Amelia Island in Florida, USA. Josephine was only 16 years old and Samuel was 24 when they married. He was a soldier in the US Army Artillery and served for 41 yrs in the US Army through the War of 1812, the Indian Wars & the War with Mexico. He enlisted as a Drummer Boy in the US Army at the age of 10 in 1808.

They had at least 6 children that I could locate: Joseph Taylor Johnson (1822-1891), Caroline Virginia Johnson (1827-1907), Augustus Frederick Johnson (1831-1877), Ann Maria Johnson (1834-1877), Samuel Valentine Johnson (1836-1885), Emily Johnson-Coleman (1845-1927).

Josephine died of stomach cancer on Feb 10, 1888 (age 81) and is buried at Cedar Hill Cemetery in Baltimore, MD next to her husband who died in 1871 (age 72).

Josephine Florence (nee Gonzales) Johnson - Cuba to US 1800's

tinajoh1 — 2009-10-31 14:45:27Z

Busco información sobre Josephine Florence Gonzales y su familia natural de Cuba. Josephine nació el 1ro de mayo de 1806 en la Habana , Cuba . Contrajo matrimonio con mi tátara-tátara abuelo, Samuel Johnson, el 24 de febrero de 1822 en Fernandina, Amelia Island en Florida , EU. Josephine sólo tenía 16 años y Samuel 24. El era soldado en las Fuerzas Armadas Estadounidenses ("US Army Artillery"), y sirvió por 41 años antes de su retiro. Samuel se enlistó a los 10 años como tamborilero en 1808, y es veterano de la Guerra anglo-estadounidense de 1812, Guerras Indias y la Guerra Méjico–Estados Unidos.

Josephine y Samuel tuvieron al menos seis hijos que he podido localizar: Joseph Taylor Johnson (1822-1891), Caroline Virginia Johnson (1827-1907), Augustus Frederick Johnson (1831-1877), Ann Maria Johnson (1834-1877), Samuel Valentine Johnson (1836-1885) y Emily Johnson-Coleman (1845-1927).

Josephine falleció el 10 de febrero de 1888 (81 años) a causa de cáncer del estómago. Ella descansa en paz junto a su esposo, quien falleció en 1871 (72 años), en el cementerio Cedar Hill de la ciudad de Baltimore en Maryland , EU.

Re: Francisco Vicente Aguilera

tonyaguilera1 — 2009-10-31 02:33:41Z

I know son

Re: Jimenez-Ansley

jtavel1 — 2009-10-28 19:26:55Z

I have been away from my computer for the past week.

Thanks a lot for your information about my wife's grandfather Nicanor, wish I could find the names of his brothers.

Did you have the info about Msgr. Alberto Martin?

Gracias
Jose

Re: Jimenez-Ansley

jtavel1 — 2009-10-28 19:01:15Z

I have been away from my computer for the past week.
Thank you for the information about Tapanes book, now I can forget about it.

Gracias
Jose

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-26 21:01:41Z

If you have any relatives left that still live there, no matter how distant (you can always call them cousins)you are allowed to visit them. Before, under Bush you were only allowed one visit every three years and only to visit immediate family (mother, son, sister, etc) but now you are allowed to visit as many times as you want and it does not have to be immediate family. I can get you all the information you need to arrange a trip. It is really quite an experience. I had not been back since 1961, when I left, and went back for the first time in 2003 before Bush tighten up the restrictions.

Fortunately (from my point of view) Trinidad has not changed that much from the way I remembered it. It still is a sleepy old colonial town with cobblestone streets and wonderful old houses. I still have a lot of cousins that live there, so if you go you won't feel like stranger.

Hasta pronto,

Jesus

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-26 03:28:06Z

*primeros

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-26 03:25:09Z

A number of my ancestors are buried there. And, I think, a lot of Lynns, or so I am told on the internet. How are you able to go there? I would love to visit, I didn't think I could.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-26 03:23:00Z

Yes, my information is that -- well, I'll just give you what was given to me: Elena y Mercedes Giurovich y Montalvan (Yurubi) eran hermanas. Madre de ellas -- Encarnacion Montalvan y Rojas. Padre de Encarnacion -- Francisco Javier Montalvan, Madre -- Manuela de Rojas. Padre de ellas -- Juan Giurovich, natural de Italia [actually, I think of the Republic of Ragusa, Dalmatia, later controlled by Venice/Italy]. Padre de Juan -- Andres de Giurovich de Ragusa. Madre de Andres -- Elena Sergene de Ragusa.

(More on Montalvan line follows here -- father of Francisco Javier said to be Bernardo Jose Montalvan and his mother Ana Hernandez Prieto)

El padre de Dona Manuela de Rojas y Valdespino se llamaba Don Manuel de Rojas y la madre Ines de Valdespino. Dona Ines de Valdespino y los Rojas desciendere de los promoeros colonos de Trinidad.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-25 19:29:55Z

Actually I don't have any info on Elena's mother. That's what I meant when I told you earlier that I got mixed up. However, on my next trip to Trinidad next spring I'll make it a point to try and get some. The historian of the city is a good friend of my cousin and he should have some info on her as well as more on Guillermo Lynn.

Juan Valdespino was from Jerez de la Frontera, Spain and it is recorded in the Municipal Museum of the City of Trinidad (Palacio Cantero) that he was "Tesorero por Su Majestad y Alcalde de la Santa Hermandad en 1633. Esta familia tiene su casa solariega blasonada en la Cuesta de las Vacas en Jerez de la Frontera. Son sus armas: En azur, espino de oro y brochante una banda de oro engolada en dragones de sinople. Dordura de oro con cuatro panelas de azur". This last phrases refer to the coat of arms of the family. I am told that in Jerez de la Frontera one can still view the Valdespino house.

Alonso Vazquez was either the son or grandson of Capitan Alonso Vazquez, one of a few trinitarians that accompanied Vasco Porcallo de Figueroa to Sancti Spiritus in 1519 to repress the so-called "Comunidades". This family goes back to the founding of the city in 1514.

Hasta pronto.

Jesus

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-25 18:19:56Z

Yes, I think they were sisters. That's what it says on the note a relative sent me "Elena y Mercedes" eran hermanas."

Sounds like you have information on their mother, who would be a mutual ancestor. My Spanish is not fabulous, but I can puzzle things out, for the most part.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-25 17:46:18Z

Sorry, I got mixed up with the names. Your ancestor Mercedes may have been a sister to Elena Yurubi, Guillermo Lynn's wife.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-25 17:32:53Z

Your ancestor Mercedes was not a sister to Elena, but her relationship was to Elena's mother Francisca Juliana Lynn y Georovich.

Let me know how your spanish is so I can send you the info on Juan Valdespino and Alonso Vazquez.

Saludos, Jesus

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-25 17:21:12Z

Hola Constance,

If you log on to: http://gw.geneanet.org/jperezcaro

you should be able to access it.

Re: Searching for a Barrera Coat of Arms

Gloandjoe — 2009-10-25 17:20:13Z

Hola:
En Genealogia de Galicia mencionan el apellido
De La Barrera y De Barrera si tu apellido es solo
Barrera puede venir de estos.
Saludos, Joseph Boan.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-25 16:44:22Z

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to access your tree, though I have tried.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

constance622 — 2009-10-25 16:40:32Z

We're making progress. Another relative recently sent me a note in Spanish (lucky, not very complicated Spanish) saying that my ancestor Mercedes Yurubi/Georovich/Giurovich and yours, Elena Yurubi/Georovich/Giurovich were sisters. Which is a bit odd since there is quite an age difference between them. And it also said (which I had not known)

My ancestor, Horatio Fox (who married Mercedes) was a friend of Guillermo Lynn and his wife Elena in Trinidad de Cuba, and as US Consul he interceded on Elena's behalf when she was arrested in 1870 for supporting the rebels. (Not to mention her being Gen. Sportorno's mother, it seems).

I only learned that the mother of Elena and Mercedes, Ines de Valdespino, with links beyond to the Vazquez family. So I would be very happy to have any more info. It's always great when an apparent stone wall finally opens up.

regards,

Constance Elena W.

Re: Yurubi Montalvan of Trinidad de Cuba

JesusPerezCaro — 2009-10-24 19:28:48Z

Hi Constance,

Yes it looks like we are related. I am a direct descendant of the 10th generation of Juan Valdespino as well as a direct descendant of the 12th generation of Alonso Vazquez.

I have some information on both of those individuals which I assume you have as well, but if you don't, let me know and I'll send it to you.

Your cousin?

Jesus

Re: Searching for a Barrera Coat of Arms

yvonnefilm — 2009-10-24 19:13:30Z

Looking for the background of my father's family name (Ralphael Eugenio Barrera). His father(my grandfather) was born in Cuba on April 16, 1889. His father was from Andalucia and Leone Rosa Poree, mother was from the Canary Islands. I'm looking for my great grandfather and back. Any information would be most appreciated.

Re: Familias de Sagua

frankmiami — 2009-10-24 15:43:33Z

Mi abuelo, Ramiro Alfert y Aroix fue corredor de la bolsa de valores de Wall Street antes de la caida de la bolsa. Era miembro del Sugar and Coffee Exchange de la bolsa en New York. Tengo su Business Card varios sobres de correspondencia con su direccion en 100 Wall Street, New York, NY.

Frank Fernandez Alfert
frankmiami@comcast.net

Re: Familias de Sagua

frankmiami — 2009-10-24 15:39:12Z

De acuerdo con los datos que tengo, la madre do Don Carlos Alfert y Leyva fue Magdalena Aroix y el padre de esta fue Alexis Aroix Etchandy. No tengo datos del padre de Donm CArlos y Don Tomas - solu su apellodo, como es natural. Parece un gran misterio hasta ahora. No tengo fechas se nacimiento ni de fallecimiento.

Recuerdo haber estado abordo del remolcador La Magdalena en loes Muelles Alfert el La Isabela de SAgua. Estoy casi seguro que una de las hijas de Don Carlos se llamo Magdalena, igual que su madre. Tengo muchas fotos de Sagua de mi familia, y creo tener una foto de Magdalena Alfert.

Francisco "Frankie" Fernandez Alfert (Hijo de Hedda Alfert y nieto de Ramiro Alfert y Aroix - ni e-mail: frankmiami@comcast.net

Re: Familias de Sagua

frankmiami — 2009-10-24 15:28:58Z

"Ramirez" Alfert y Aroix es probablement mi abuelo, a quien conoci y quise mucho:

"Ramiro" Alfert y Aroix, hijo de Don Carlos Alfert y Leyva.

Mi nombre is Francisco "Frank" o "Frankie" Fernandez ALfert, soy hiho de Hedda Alfert y nieto de Ramiro.

Conservo muchisimas fotos de Sagua, y fotos do los ALfert.

Mi e-mail es frankmiami@comcast.net