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Elder Crest from Isle of Skye and India

NancyElderPetersen  (View posts) Posted: 8 Sep 2009 10:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ELDER
Today I received the photo - "hand with quill pen"
shown as artistic Elder Crest for
Capt. and Commander Benjamin John Elder
of Isle of Skye and India
(2nd side photo by Walpole's Antiques - Sept. 8, 2009)
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder...

First Side photo:
Antique Elephant from India
http://www.cinoa.org/art-and-antiques/detail/3148

The "hand with quill pen"
does look similar to one of the drawings in
the Elder Crest article published
by Donna Logan in the Elder Family Newsletter, posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder...

More Elder Crest notes:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder...

Meanings:
http://www.fleurdelis.com/meanings.htm
Hand - Pledge of faith, sincerity, and justice
Pen - Art of writing and educated employment

--Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, Elder DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

Re: Elder Crest from Isle of Skye and India

NancyElderPetersen  (View posts) Posted: 9 Sep 2009 5:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ELDER
Using Google, I just found a different name for the
ELDER Crest from my own
paper files -- described as: "In dexter hand a palm branch"
Scanned and posted the "Tennessee ELDER Crest"
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder...

Descendants of these families match DNA of "FRANKLIN CO PA."
From book:
"Families named ELDER in East Tennessee"
compiled by Virginia Knight Nelson
Nelson, Virginia Knight, 1920- (Main Author)
Includes indexes
.Samuel ELDER (b. ?- d. ca. 1811) married Hannah (b. ?-d. 1829), who later married James Moore (b. ?-1831) in 1814. Samuel is of Scotch-Irish ancestry. Descendants and relatives lived in Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania and elsewhere.
Subjects: ELDER, Geer, Moore, Tallent
Copies
Call Number Location Availability
929.273 EL22n FHL FAM HIST Book Available
Format Books/Monographs
Language English
Publication Knoxville, Tennessee : Virginia Knight Nelson, 1986
Physical: 1 v. (various pagings) : ill., coat of arms,
facsims., geneal. tables, maps, ports.

Palm Branch Victory, justice, and royal honour

--Nancy ELDER Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

Re: Elder Crest from Isle of Skye and India - palm branch

NancyElderPetersen  (View posts) Posted: 10 Sep 2009 4:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Elder
I found a reference online to "a palm-branch" which may have been used to describe the "Tennessee ELDER Crest"
as well as the Crest on Benjamin John Elder's Elephant Antique (Side 2).
- from "Book of Family Crests" - illustration cited as Plate 61
Published 1882 By Reeves and Turner
Indexed:
ELDER
— Sco ., a dexter hand holding a palm-branch, ppr.
pl. 61, n. 7.
motto: Virtate duce. ...

Page scanned - text:
at
http://www.family-crests.info/pages1550.php

Plate 61:
at
http://tinyurl.com/lvvxjh

MOTTO index shows an entry for VIRTUTE DUCE:
which must be for "Sir George ELDER, KCB - Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath"
who joined the military from ISLE OF SKYE.
He was actually born near Inverness.
- Google Books Result:
"Virtute duce: With virtue my guide. Elder, KCB ; Shannon ; Shand"

Also using motto of Virtute Duce: Shannan, MacShannon
Found elsewhere:
"the MacShannons of today are descended from the ancient family of McShenoig, the hereditary harpers to the Clan Donald, who held the important castle at Dunaverty Point on the south coast of Kintyre from the 13th to the 16th century...."

Currently on ISLE OF SKYE is the Clan Donald Library & Museum of the Isles, located in Parish of Sleat near the "Sir GEORGE ELDER" and family location.

My notes for Isle of Skye:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Skye....

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