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Minerva Jane Lamar - Absalom Lamar - Samuel Lamar

lindasd50  (View posts) Posted: 26 Jun 2009 2:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lamar - Spain
looking for descandants of Minerva Jane Lamar, sister of Absalom, Samuel & N. B. Lamar.... children of Osborn Lamar...
there is a document that refers to a Family Bible that was given to Minerva Jane upon her mothers death... curious about family history contained within the bible....

I am a descendant of Caroline Spain & Pearley Lamar... also looking for info on Pearley Lamar....

Re: Minerva Jane Lamar - Absalom Lamar - Samuel Lamar: Osborn Lamar line

Cecilia_FabosBecker  (View posts) Posted: 29 Jun 2009 1:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: LAMAR, Strong, Stanton, Beasley, OSBORN
Dear Linda;

I have some Lamar information (the book called _The Lamar Legacy_ by the late Ruth Lamar Petracek), and a couple of files of notes from other books and sources. The name "Osborn" was familiar. In going through my notes, and doing some research on "Ancestry.com," I soon remembered why. I had once thought the James Lamar and Verlinda Osborne family might be somehow connected to my William Lamar. No such luck, of course, after I did an extensive search of that line, but I learned a fair amount on that James Lamar and his family.

Ok, here's what I have "dug up" on your line. I know that originally, there were a couple of family Bibles involved in all the family trees that repeated exact birth dates, and such that are currently so abundant on "Ancestry.com" "family trees." It takes awhile to find one that actually mentions a Bible or county records, etc. and the most mentions of them are not in the trees but were in a couple of discussions of this family over the past few years. Also there are records of this family in county records, cemetery records, etc. in Randolph County, North Carolina, and Madison County, Delaware County and Henry County, Indiana. I'd try the genweb and the county list groups for help finding those, should you want more records.

Your particular family is on the 1850 and 1860 census, however, and your Osborn Lamar was still alive and living with son Absalom on the 1870 census. This was in Madison County, Indiana. Osborn died in Eaton township, Delaware County, Indiana, though.

Osborn Lamar, b. 15 Feb., 1814, Randolph Co., NC md. Susannah Strong b. NC in 1818/19. They were married August 22, 1839, in Wilmington, Clinton Co., OH. (family trees citing other trees, and ultimately a Bible record further back in the chain of trees) However, Osborn already had obtained a piece of land of 160 acres in Madison Co., Indiana on Aug. 1, 1837 at the Fort Wayne Land Office of the U.S. Government. The location given in Madison County, Indiana for the acreage was Sect. 34, Tnsp 21-N, Range 8-E, 2nd PM (2nd meridian past prime meridian?). Accession no. IN3350__.430, document 9499 (U.S. Government Land records). It's not clear why he was in Ohio marrying Ms. Strong there, given that he'd already established a homestead in Indiana.

Osborn Lamar died August 4, 1876 in Eaton township, Delaware County, Indiana. Since he was living with son Absolom in 1870 in Madison County, I'd guess he had another child living in Delaware County at that time. His wife, Susannah, died about 1865/66, since 1865 was the year of birth of their last child, and she was not on the 1870 census.

The children of Osborn Lamar were: (1)Samuel L. b. 1842; (2)Absolom b. 1843-d. 1924; (3)Isabel b. 1844; (4)George Washington b. 1845; (5)Francis Marion b. 1847; (6) Prudence Eliza b. 1848; (7)Elisha b. 1849-died as an infant; (8)Theophilas b.1851; (9)Lydia E. b. 1853; (10)Linzey Dennis b. 1855; (11)Napoleon Bonaparte b. 1857 (probably named for N.B. III--not the "original"); (12)Minerva b. 1859; and (13)Martha Louisa b. 1865. I strongly suspect, given how prolific this couple was, and how close many of the births were to one another that there was one more child, "Isaac" born in 1840 who died young. Osborn's parents were: Isaac Lamar and Hannah Stanton.

Isaac Lamar was born 17 Mar. 1788 in Randolph Co., NC and married Hannah Stanton b. 1790 NC on Sept. 20, 1809 in Randolph Co., NC. Their known children were: Mary b. 1810, Osborn b. Feb. 15, 1814, Samuel b. 1819 (went to Henry County, Indiana was on the 1850 census there), and Ruth b. 1823. There were undoubtedly other children. I'd suspect another son named James, and at least two children more besides before Ruth, and a couple of more after her birth. However, Hannah died before 1847. There is no mention, nor record, of her having attempted the move north from North Carolina to Indiana, as there is a record/note for her husband. Isaac is alleged to have died July 13, 1847, "enroute from North Carolina to Indiana," probably with one of his younger children, as it's clear from the census records that sons Osborn and Samuel had been in Indiana for quite some time before 1850.

Isaac Lamar himself was a younger son of Osborn Lamar Sr. and Rachel Beasley who lived and died in Randolph County, North Carolina.

Osborn Lamar Sr. was born October 31, 1756 in either Rowan or Randolph County, North Carolina, and died Sept. 29, 1840 in Randolph Co., NC (he was on the 1840 census there--taken just a couple of months before his death). Osborn Lamar Sr. was a younger son of James Lamar (1724-86--died in Wilkes Co., GA, though he lived most of his life in North Carolina) and Verlinda Osborn (1726-1760) who were originally from Prince George Co., Maryland. Osborn Lamar Sr. and Rachel Beasley (married in Randolph County in 1777, but no exact date in trees was cited) had the following known children: (1)Hannah b. 1778; (2)Bethia b. 1782--d.1842; (3)Sarah b. 1784--d. 1860; (4)Isaac b. 17 Mar 1788; (6)Nathan b. 1791; (7)Zachariah b. 1798 and (8)Rachel b. 1799. I suspect there were two more children: a daughter born about 1780/1 and another child (either son or daughter) b. in 1786, both of whom died young. As North Carolina was still a colony (disputed of course) when Osborn and Rachel were married, and the colonial law (not changed until many years later) required a minimum marriage age of 21, Rachel Beasley was also very likely born in 1756, or a little earlier, perhaps 1755.

James Lamar (1724-1786) and Verlinda Osborn (1725-1760) had the following known children (most have been well proved and the number and names of the children were the subject of quite a discussion on several list groups just last year): (1) James Lamar Jr. b. 1746--d. 1818; (2)Rutha b. 1747--d.1816; (3, 4)Thomas b. 1748--and twin brother John; (4)Nathan b. 1749; (5)Tabitha b. 1750-d. 1815 (a twin sister was also born at that time and died soon after birth); (6,7) Verlinda b. 1752 and twin brother (fraternal) John;(8) Keziah b. 1754-1838; (9)Osborn b. 31 Oct. 1756--d. 29 Sept. 1840.

James Lamar (1724-1786) was a son of Thomas Lamar and Martha Blanford. This is a fairly well documented line, and has been the subject of much discussion.

I hope this helps you. As for Pearley Lamar, I would need a little more information about her, like approximate dates of birth and death and a location for birth, where she lived, or death to be able to nail her down. There are several Pearl Lamars in the late 1800's and into the 1900's.

Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker
direct email: celia.lfsbecker@sbcglobal.net (all lower case letters, no numbers)

Re: Minerva Jane Lamar - Absalom Lamar - Samuel Lamar: Osborn Lamar line

lindasd50  (View posts) Posted: 29 Jun 2009 2:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Pearley (aka Pearl) B. Lamar is the SON of Absalom Lamar & Sarah Lyons and was born APRX 1887... he married Carolyn Spain 7-5-1906 in Carthage MO.. but can find no Death, Divorce or anything after that... she remarried , but the family does not know where he went or what happened to him.
Carolyn ran him off...

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