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Salley of RI and Maine

lmchilders  (View posts) Posted: 26 Jan 2008 2:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley
Elwin L Salley 1900 RI f. Fred W salley 1872 F. Uriah Salley 1830 F Elias Salley 1804 Maine. Isaac Salley. Does anyone have information on this family? Thank-you

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Believer37  (View posts) Posted: 19 Oct 2008 11:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley, Sally, Rackliff
Hello, regarding your post for the "Salley" family (Sally?).... My 3x great grand-parents were
Martha Jane Salley and Peletiah Rackliff of Phippsburg, Maine who were married April 1834. Here is a link from what I just found recently:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mesagada/phippsvrs.htm

SALLY, Elizabeth and James Perkins, both of P., Jan. 2, 1834 (int. not recorded).
Julia, Miss, and Thomas McKenney, both of P., int. Oct. 21, 1848.
Martha and Peletiah Rackliffe, both of P., Apr. __, 1834 (int. not recorded).
Mary, Miss, and Andrew McKinney, both of P., int. Oct. 15, 1831.
Rachel, Miss, and James McKinney, Jr., both of P., int. June 6, 1829.
William and Louise Perkins, both of P., Sept. __, 1836.

That's all I know about the Salley family. Have you found more information? I am interested in Martha Salley's parents, who they are and whre they are from. thank you.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen  (View posts) Posted: 4 Jan 2009 2:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley
I have the info you seek on ancestors of Martha Jane Salley. Parents were James Salley(b.abt 1776) Phippsburg. m. Lois Dors, 10 Oct 1801 Georgetown, Me. Have not gathered info on Lois yet. James was the son of John Salley and Summersett McFadden.(See a few of my posts on the Salley board about John and Summersetts family). James and Lois Dors had 8 children:Betsey b.1802, Alfard b.1804, Mary b.1805,William Butler b.1807,d.1884, Julian b. 1808, Rachel Preston b.1811, Martha Jane b.1812, Samuel Loring b. 1819. Still have some info I haven't reviewed as of yet.

Also, after extensive research in Virginia library this past November, I have found no Salley collection there to Salleys here. Did extensive reviews of colonial documents, county records, tax records etc. there, and so far confirms my initial thoughts, based on in New England records, that the reference in Embden book here to the Salley brothers coming from Va is not correct. The Mcfaddens and Salleys were well acquainted in Ireland. My earlier posts explain this.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Believer37  (View posts) Posted: 4 Jan 2009 3:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley, McFadden
Thank you, Glen. I will look on the Salley board tomorrow. Is this your lineage also? I have many ancestors from Maine and Massachusetts.

Happy New Year
~Darlene

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen  (View posts) Posted: 12 Jan 2009 1:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley
Hi Darlene,
The Salley line is on my spouses side. We have been working on it for 20 yrs or so. Most information gathered completes the lineage from Georgetown, ME to present, however, still some research to do at NEGHS in Boston. We live in South Portland, ME and I used to hunt/fish the Georgetown area frequently, and have walked across the lands owned by the early Salleys (1700 ca). Due to squabbles with native americans at that time, their move up the Kennebec Rive eventually led them to the Embdem/Madison area. We have also walked across the old Salley family lands there too, and have fished the many ponds in the area. Georgetown/Arrowsic Island area was a very active merchantile goods trading area, which substantially prompted the indian raids. Their very wise decision to move inland provided them with better living conditions, however much colder climate, as they settled along the Old Canada Trail. Farming was hard with an average of 6 months hard winter, so trading again become a livelyhood. The trail was frequently traveled, enabling them to keep up with news too. It has been rumored that an early Salley was a French fur trader, and at some point, married a Indian woman from Quecbe Province, but I have found no written personal records of this. There were over 300,000 fur traders over a century period, and most transactions were not recorded on both sides of the border. So it is hard to place persons involving transactions or marriages. I guess DNA testing might point to a genetic connection, but probably to no avail.
Concerning the origin of the Salleys, and their introduction to New England intertwines with the McFadden families. I have records of the McFadden family, and their travels to the Americas. Remember Summersett McFadden married John Salley in Georgetown. They were acquainted before their arrivals here, and IGI listings in Ireland/England show their close proximity. I will post research notes here as I proceed. Thanks for your reply too.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

ejsalley  (View posts) Posted: 6 Nov 2009 3:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Glen,

Do you have any records or references you can cite regarding the close association of the McFadden and Salley families in Ireland?

I have some references to the McFaddens, but nothing on the Salleys, including the parentage of John who married Summersett

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Salley126  (View posts) Posted: 10 Nov 2009 8:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
A number of English settlements were established along the coast of the northernmost portion of New England (that is now Maine) in the 1620s. Some of the lands skirted a large body of water, known as Merrymeeting Bay, which is formed by the Androscoggin River entering the Kennebec River. The territory was part of Massachusetts in the American Colonies until Maine became the 23rd state on March 15, 1820 through the Missouri Compromise.

As you know, in the world of Genealogy, there are so many twists and turns and nothing is "written in stone".

Records show, John Salley was born about 1720 in the Merrymeeting Bay area of what is now as Maine. He married Summersett McFadden, who was born in Jan. 1720. Summersett McFadden was the daughter of Andrew McFadden, born about 1675 or 1680 in the Highlands Of, Scotland, and Jane “Lindsey” McFadden, born 1687 in Garovo (or Garvagh), Londonderry, Ireland. Andrew McFadden and Jane Lindsey married in Garvagh in 1704 and lived in the town of Garvo [Garvagh], County Derry, on the Bann Water, Ireland, at a place called Summersett. They moved from Ireland to Boston, from Boston to the Kennebec River and up Merrymeeting Bay to a place called Cathance Point.

Testimony (records) shows that Andrew and Daniel McFadden, of Georgetown, were the sons of the above Andrew and Jane McFadden. Other testimony shows that they had a daughter between Andrew and Daniel, born on the Kennebec River in 1720. They christened her Summersett.

Much information has not been proven, as records are scarce or none at all. No records published of John Salley's father's name, who may have come from Ireland in early 1700s and may have used a different spelling of his name.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen  (View posts) Posted: 11 Nov 2009 2:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley
I have not been active on the Salley info this past summer, but I do have information of the relationships between the Salleys and McFaddens in Europe. I will dig through my papers in the next few weeks and pull out the info. I did some Virginia Library research of colonial records last year and gathered some information on Salleys, but none there pointing to their movement from VA to Maine. I highly suspect that did not happen. My research and notes, I remember, clearly led me back to England, with arrival in New England, not Va. I will have to review. I'll keep all posted....

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

rrwilliston  (View posts) Posted: 12 Nov 2009 9:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
James Salley of Phippsburg, b. about 1776, cannot be the son of John and Sommerset Salley. John died by October 1762.

Re: James Salley b. 1776

maineglen  (View posts) Posted: 15 Nov 2009 2:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Salley
You are correct that this James Salley could not be the son of John and Summerset. He is their grandson. John and Summerset had a son James b. 1741 in Georgetown,Me. This his son James b.1776 who married Lois Dors. He and Lois had seven children: Betsy,b.23 Jul 1802;Alfard b. 8 May 1804;Mary b. 10 Nov 1805;Julian b.21 Feb 1808;Rachel Preston b.16 Apr 1811,m.James McKinney Jr of Phippsburg;Martha Jane b.12 Apr 1812, m. 1 Apr 1834 in Georgetown Peletiah Rackliffe,b.Phippsburg;Samuel Loring b.19 Oct 1819.

Summersettes' husband John died 20 Oct 1762 in Georgetown.

Note:New info has been found by researching Georgetown Town Records in the Maine Historical Society files, that Summerset again married by filing a marriage intent on Feb 2, 1756 in Georgetown to wed Daniel Farrell (b. 1720 also). She was 36 yrs old. Daniel the same. It was spelled "Sally" at that time. As is with most town records in colonial times, the town clerk was the only one who could read or write, so hence the name variations. They spelled it as they thought it should be. This is true of Census takers throughout the 1700 and 1800's.
Evidently Summerset and her first husband John, had parted ways prior to 1756. John stayed at his home after the separation/divorce and died October 20, 1762. No record exists of him remarrying. His assets were probated 2 Nov 1762 by William Malcom and Daniel McFadden, (brother of Summerset) who was appointed guardian to Johns minor son Daniel Salley.( If Summerset had custody of the children after seperation, then there would have been no need for an appointed guardian. Summerset departed from her life with John under unusual circumstances,no documentation exists of a legal divorce. However for her to remarry a divorce had to have deen done.)
Elizabeth Salley, the other minor, chose Daniel McFadden as her guardian . Probate order (Lincoln Cty Probate Records) regarding Johns estate disposition was given 13 Aug 1766. Notes of disposition unknown, but can surmise Summerset must have objected to the original probate proceedings, as it took so long to settle the estate. Summerset married Daniel and continued to live in the area. Although more children are listed at the time of John's death, the previous two(Elizabeth & Daniel) were the only minors.The other siblings were adults.

Note: Georgetown Vital Records to 1892 record no deaths of Salleys inGeorgetown. It was spelled "Sally" at that time. As is with most town records in colonial times, the town clerk was the only one who could read or write, so hence the name variations. They spelled it as they thought it should be. This is true of Census takers throughout the 1700 and 1800's.

Hope some tidbits here have helped. I have more info to review and pass on later on in December, asfte a visit to Georgetown and Maine State Archives (again, ha)
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