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Re: James Salley b. 1776

maineglen — 2009-11-16 00:48:04Z

I forgot to mention that I saw it on microfilm, Maine State Archives, Georgetown Records, page 40.

Glen

Re: James Salley b. 1776

rrwilliston — 2009-11-15 17:52:10Z

I have a copy of the book Georgetown Vital Records so I was aware of James b. 1776 and his family. I think James b. 1741 married Mary Day. In 1730 a James Salley was in the militia with John Salley.

John Salley, jr. and Daniel Farrell joined the militia at Fort Western in January 1757 and served until September 1758. Daniel Farrell had been impressed to serve in 1754. James Salley b. 1741 joined them in September 1757. They were 3 of the 14 men serving there. Daniel Farrell spent many years in the militia. Fort Western was a supply station for the fort at Winslow so the men seldom engaged in combat. In 1762, Daniel Farrell's residence was Halifax [possibly Fort Halifax] and he was the "father or master to son's underage" for Daniel Salley b. about 1751. Daniel Salley spent only four months with his Uncle Daniel McFadden [Daniel was the most sucessful of the McFadden sons and he and Sommerset were close by birth, the other brothers being older.] Because they were living at a fort, the two younger children Elizabeth and Daniel needed other arrangements, a guardian. Since James Salley was at Augusta, and his job involved transporting supplies upstream to Winslow, he would be familiar with the land around Vasselboro, so it is not a stretch to think that he settled at Vasselboro. He may have been given land for his service because he did sell land there. Daniel McFadden was granted 200 acres at Vasselboro by the Kennebec Company and his son Daniel jr. settled there. The records don't begin until about 1800.

John Salley, jr. was appointed administrator to his father's estate on 20 October 1762 so he died earlier. In the judge's ruling, he grants a dower to the unnamed wife of John Salley so she was still legally married. There was no settled minister at Georgetown until 1765. In those days it was a long way between Georgetown and Augusta, ministers were few and far between [the minister from the fort left in 1754], maybe other people accepted this arrangement. I don't know what powers the military had then, if they could perform marriages or divorces. They were the only officials in the area. There are no deaths for either of them. Records began much later.

I'm really interested in the marriege intention record. I have seen the original record on microfilm and ages were not given. How would I find it in the files? I hope to go to the Historical Society next spring. Was the record dated on the 2nd or 7th November? That information helped me to think through what I wrote in the second paragraph.

Thank you for your through reply.

Re: James Salley b. 1776 OOps

maineglen — 2009-11-15 14:44:27Z

Forgive a few spelling mistakes and redundance of the town clerk statement. Last sentence "asfte" should be "after".
My fingers aren't working today, ha!

Re: James Salley b. 1776

maineglen — 2009-11-15 14:39:01Z

You are correct that this James Salley could not be the son of John and Summerset. He is their grandson. John and Summerset had a son James b. 1741 in Georgetown,Me. This his son James b.1776 who married Lois Dors. He and Lois had seven children: Betsy,b.23 Jul 1802;Alfard b. 8 May 1804;Mary b. 10 Nov 1805;Julian b.21 Feb 1808;Rachel Preston b.16 Apr 1811,m.James McKinney Jr of Phippsburg;Martha Jane b.12 Apr 1812, m. 1 Apr 1834 in Georgetown Peletiah Rackliffe,b.Phippsburg;Samuel Loring b.19 Oct 1819.

Summersettes' husband John died 20 Oct 1762 in Georgetown.

Note:New info has been found by researching Georgetown Town Records in the Maine Historical Society files, that Summerset again married by filing a marriage intent on Feb 2, 1756 in Georgetown to wed Daniel Farrell (b. 1720 also). She was 36 yrs old. Daniel the same. It was spelled "Sally" at that time. As is with most town records in colonial times, the town clerk was the only one who could read or write, so hence the name variations. They spelled it as they thought it should be. This is true of Census takers throughout the 1700 and 1800's.
Evidently Summerset and her first husband John, had parted ways prior to 1756. John stayed at his home after the separation/divorce and died October 20, 1762. No record exists of him remarrying. His assets were probated 2 Nov 1762 by William Malcom and Daniel McFadden, (brother of Summerset) who was appointed guardian to Johns minor son Daniel Salley.( If Summerset had custody of the children after seperation, then there would have been no need for an appointed guardian. Summerset departed from her life with John under unusual circumstances,no documentation exists of a legal divorce. However for her to remarry a divorce had to have deen done.)
Elizabeth Salley, the other minor, chose Daniel McFadden as her guardian . Probate order (Lincoln Cty Probate Records) regarding Johns estate disposition was given 13 Aug 1766. Notes of disposition unknown, but can surmise Summerset must have objected to the original probate proceedings, as it took so long to settle the estate. Summerset married Daniel and continued to live in the area. Although more children are listed at the time of John's death, the previous two(Elizabeth & Daniel) were the only minors.The other siblings were adults.

Note: Georgetown Vital Records to 1892 record no deaths of Salleys inGeorgetown. It was spelled "Sally" at that time. As is with most town records in colonial times, the town clerk was the only one who could read or write, so hence the name variations. They spelled it as they thought it should be. This is true of Census takers throughout the 1700 and 1800's.

Hope some tidbits here have helped. I have more info to review and pass on later on in December, asfte a visit to Georgetown and Maine State Archives (again, ha)

Re: Data Exchange

lmchilders — 2009-11-14 18:06:54Z

Uriah and Edwin Salley were Brothers. Their parents were Elias Salley and Mary Dunlap
Edwin was born August 1843 and was 18 years old when he mustered in August 31st 1861. Uriah was the older brother born Feb 1830. Uriah is my Great Great Grandfather

Re: Isaac Salley again

rrwilliston — 2009-11-14 14:30:07Z

I would be interested in a copy of your work. How do get in touch with you?

Re: Data Exchange

rrwilliston — 2009-11-13 15:41:32Z

Who are Uriah and Edwin Salley of Smithfield, R.I. who served in the Revoultionary War? They would be at least 18 yrs. at the time unless one of them was guardian of the other, then younger men could serve in a non-combat capacity.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

rrwilliston — 2009-11-12 21:28:58Z

James Salley of Phippsburg, b. about 1776, cannot be the son of John and Sommerset Salley. John died by October 1762.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen — 2009-11-11 02:04:17Z

I have not been active on the Salley info this past summer, but I do have information of the relationships between the Salleys and McFaddens in Europe. I will dig through my papers in the next few weeks and pull out the info. I did some Virginia Library research of colonial records last year and gathered some information on Salleys, but none there pointing to their movement from VA to Maine. I highly suspect that did not happen. My research and notes, I remember, clearly led me back to England, with arrival in New England, not Va. I will have to review. I'll keep all posted....

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Salley126 — 2009-11-10 20:08:41Z

A number of English settlements were established along the coast of the northernmost portion of New England (that is now Maine) in the 1620s. Some of the lands skirted a large body of water, known as Merrymeeting Bay, which is formed by the Androscoggin River entering the Kennebec River. The territory was part of Massachusetts in the American Colonies until Maine became the 23rd state on March 15, 1820 through the Missouri Compromise.

As you know, in the world of Genealogy, there are so many twists and turns and nothing is "written in stone".

Records show, John Salley was born about 1720 in the Merrymeeting Bay area of what is now as Maine. He married Summersett McFadden, who was born in Jan. 1720. Summersett McFadden was the daughter of Andrew McFadden, born about 1675 or 1680 in the Highlands Of, Scotland, and Jane “Lindsey” McFadden, born 1687 in Garovo (or Garvagh), Londonderry, Ireland. Andrew McFadden and Jane Lindsey married in Garvagh in 1704 and lived in the town of Garvo [Garvagh], County Derry, on the Bann Water, Ireland, at a place called Summersett. They moved from Ireland to Boston, from Boston to the Kennebec River and up Merrymeeting Bay to a place called Cathance Point.

Testimony (records) shows that Andrew and Daniel McFadden, of Georgetown, were the sons of the above Andrew and Jane McFadden. Other testimony shows that they had a daughter between Andrew and Daniel, born on the Kennebec River in 1720. They christened her Summersett.

Much information has not been proven, as records are scarce or none at all. No records published of John Salley's father's name, who may have come from Ireland in early 1700s and may have used a different spelling of his name.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

ejsalley — 2009-11-06 03:22:06Z

Hi Glen,

Do you have any records or references you can cite regarding the close association of the McFadden and Salley families in Ireland?

I have some references to the McFaddens, but nothing on the Salleys, including the parentage of John who married Summersett

Re: African-American Salleys in SC (Salley SC)

Salley126 — 2009-07-28 22:37:10Z

Check the Family Search.Org web.

Orie Salley – Birth: About 1889 – Salley, Aiken,
South Carolina. Who married Mary Felder in 1913. Mary "Felder" Salley – Birth: About 1893 – Salley, Aiken, South Carolina

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?P...

Re: African-American Salleys in SC (Salley SC)

jnbrez — 2009-07-27 20:18:36Z

OK Verlon,

My branch also is from the Blackville/Denmark/Bamberg SC area. I actually knew Mr Clarence Salley that just passed away a few months ago. My GrGrandfather name was Allridge or Arie Salley from Salley SC but he moved his family to the Blackville area. His wife was Mary Felder Salley from the Blackville area. Their children include Hezikiah, Isabell, Maybel, Margaret, Lillie, Ishmel, Douglas, Cremium (Sugar Pig) and possibly a few more. I did find 1930 Census with Mary and several of the children but Allridge wasn't included.

John

maude salley?

hlchaney — 2009-07-11 19:19:22Z

would anyone know the name maude salley from missouri? she was cherokee indian i think thats what i was always told she was born in 1886 and died in 1963 at a mental hospital?could have been from oklahoma married alot only know of 1 son but could have been more not sure thank you heather

Re: Eastern Kentucky Salley Families

DrBillRice — 2009-06-27 23:21:12Z

Anne, my e-mail is billthel@mrtc.com...

Re: Eastern Kentucky Salley Families

knueveam — 2009-06-27 17:21:38Z

Dear Dr. Rice,

you responded to a message of mine some time ago about the Salley's of Hazard, KY. One relative in particular, Shiloh Salley, was someone that you have heard of and you even mentioned that you've spoken/visited with members of the Salley family.

My mother, sisters, and I are planning a trip to Hazard over the weekend of July 10th-12th to do some family research. I was wondering if you had any suggestions of places we could visit. We are looking for any place that could be associated with our family members: restaurants, streets, houses, cemeteries, etc. Also, I would absolutely love to be able to contact any Salley's that remain in or around Hazard if you had any names/phone numbers.

I know all of this is a long shot, but since we are actually going to Hazard, I thought I'd ask.

Thanks very much,

Anne Knueven

Re: African-American Salleys in SC (Salley SC)

VerlonSalley — 2009-05-14 20:51:47Z

Well,
For those that were in my family... quite a bit. My tree dates back to a Landy Salley (abt 1830). He and his wife Katie had about 6 children (Tempy, Lawrence, Charity, Elizabeth, and Patrick). All born and raised in Barnwell/Bamberg. My Paternal Great Great Grand Mother was Elizabeth "Lizzie"... and the rest is history. Since I've been on ancestry.com I've found others that had the key to the branch of Lawrence & Charity.

I know I'm missing other Salleys, but those are the ones that trunk my tree. Still searching when I get a chance. But both my Paternal Grand Parents were born and raised in Denmark/Blackville, SC. Including my father. And both my Paternal Grand Parents are still alive. So maybe I can help if you need some questions answered.

Re: African-American Salleys in SC (Salley SC)

jnbrez — 2009-05-14 17:32:16Z

Hey Verlon,

What do you have on the AA Salleys of Bamberg SC area? Look forward to seein what you have. Thanks.

Re: African American Salley From Salley, SC (Aiken County SC)

jnbrez — 2009-04-28 13:13:46Z

Hi Patricia,

Following up from a few years on an info you may have available about the AA family we discussed in 2004. Good bless.

John

Re: J.J. Salley

DanSalley — 2009-03-02 05:24:13Z

Sorry it took so long - I hope you get this.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen — 2009-01-12 13:15:35Z

Hi Darlene,
The Salley line is on my spouses side. We have been working on it for 20 yrs or so. Most information gathered completes the lineage from Georgetown, ME to present, however, still some research to do at NEGHS in Boston. We live in South Portland, ME and I used to hunt/fish the Georgetown area frequently, and have walked across the lands owned by the early Salleys (1700 ca). Due to squabbles with native americans at that time, their move up the Kennebec Rive eventually led them to the Embdem/Madison area. We have also walked across the old Salley family lands there too, and have fished the many ponds in the area. Georgetown/Arrowsic Island area was a very active merchantile goods trading area, which substantially prompted the indian raids. Their very wise decision to move inland provided them with better living conditions, however much colder climate, as they settled along the Old Canada Trail. Farming was hard with an average of 6 months hard winter, so trading again become a livelyhood. The trail was frequently traveled, enabling them to keep up with news too. It has been rumored that an early Salley was a French fur trader, and at some point, married a Indian woman from Quecbe Province, but I have found no written personal records of this. There were over 300,000 fur traders over a century period, and most transactions were not recorded on both sides of the border. So it is hard to place persons involving transactions or marriages. I guess DNA testing might point to a genetic connection, but probably to no avail.
Concerning the origin of the Salleys, and their introduction to New England intertwines with the McFadden families. I have records of the McFadden family, and their travels to the Americas. Remember Summersett McFadden married John Salley in Georgetown. They were acquainted before their arrivals here, and IGI listings in Ireland/England show their close proximity. I will post research notes here as I proceed. Thanks for your reply too.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Believer37 — 2009-01-04 03:34:48Z

Thank you, Glen. I will look on the Salley board tomorrow. Is this your lineage also? I have many ancestors from Maine and Massachusetts.

Happy New Year
~Darlene

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

maineglen — 2009-01-04 02:36:47Z

I have the info you seek on ancestors of Martha Jane Salley. Parents were James Salley(b.abt 1776) Phippsburg. m. Lois Dors, 10 Oct 1801 Georgetown, Me. Have not gathered info on Lois yet. James was the son of John Salley and Summersett McFadden.(See a few of my posts on the Salley board about John and Summersetts family). James and Lois Dors had 8 children:Betsey b.1802, Alfard b.1804, Mary b.1805,William Butler b.1807,d.1884, Julian b. 1808, Rachel Preston b.1811, Martha Jane b.1812, Samuel Loring b. 1819. Still have some info I haven't reviewed as of yet.

Also, after extensive research in Virginia library this past November, I have found no Salley collection there to Salleys here. Did extensive reviews of colonial documents, county records, tax records etc. there, and so far confirms my initial thoughts, based on in New England records, that the reference in Embden book here to the Salley brothers coming from Va is not correct. The Mcfaddens and Salleys were well acquainted in Ireland. My earlier posts explain this.

Re: Eastern Kentucky Salley Families

billthel1 — 2008-10-26 00:20:13Z

Deborah Wrote:
Thomas Salley is my gggrandfather.b.1823 Lee co, Va, d.1869 Wolf Co. Ky. Married Matilda Ann Church. Son (my ggrandfather) Martin Salley B.16 Aug, Lee co Va. came to Greenup Co.Ky. Married Martha Richard. After 1900 census don't know what happen to Martin. I know where his wife is buried he is not with her. If anyone knows anything about Martin please let me know.

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Deborah,

Thomas is a brother to my 3-times great-grandfather, Greenberry Salley.

From my early research, quite some years ago, it appears that Martin died between about 1882 and 1885. That is simply based on three things in my data: These being that Martha Richards was a widow in 1900, that their youngest child was born in about 1882, and she was still of child bearing age (she was only about 25 years old when the “last” child was born), suggesting her husband died within about two years of the child’s birth. I have no information about the cause of Martin’s death which probably occurred in Greenup or Carter County.

I know one other Salley (Sallee) researcher in our line and he does not have further data on Martin. Aren’t there Salley’s still living in the Greeup/Carter area that may know ?
Dr. Bill Rice

Re: Minnie Salley? (Watkins)

rblevins11 — 2008-10-25 18:13:40Z

Dr. Brian Johnson
I am looking for a Minnie Salley and Pearl Salley their parent were Martin Salley b.16 Aug 1856 d.?. his wife Martha Richard. Has been said the girls were given away. Know one will tell me anything what happen to them. They had three brothers Clelly b.1877, Richard b.1879, Albert b.1882. Don't know what happen to Martin was not in 1900 Greenup Co. Ky. Census Clelly is my great-grandfather.
Don't know if your Minnie could be the one I am looking for? Does any of this connect to you information?
Thank You, Deborah (Salley) Blevins

William Anderson Salley, Aiken SC

bkube14 — 2008-10-23 14:33:19Z

Looking for information regarding this person. He died somewhere around 1932. Any information would be appreciated.

Re: Sarah Salley

JoLaughlin10 — 2008-10-20 01:05:36Z

Must be the wrong Sarah Salley. My Sarah doesn't appear to come from the line of Salley's from South Carolina.

This is the correct date, or about, as she married my ggggpa
Fielding (Fielden) Sumpter. I have the census they were on and their marriage liscense.
Thanks for the input though. Still looking for answers if anyone else has anything.

Re: Sarah Salley

Salleys180 — 2008-10-20 00:35:39Z

Sarah Salley. She was born about 1761 in Burke, North Carolina. Are you sure?

Because there was Sarah Salley, who was born May 13th, 1758 at the home of her father Martin Salley, and his wife Susannah in Goodland Swamp, South Carolina, according to the Orangeburg County history. But Sarah Salley, in South Carolina, married John Ott, who was born in 1752.

Re: Salley of RI and Maine

Believer37 — 2008-10-19 23:50:57Z

Hello, regarding your post for the "Salley" family (Sally?).... My 3x great grand-parents were
Martha Jane Salley and Peletiah Rackliff of Phippsburg, Maine who were married April 1834. Here is a link from what I just found recently:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mesagada/phippsvrs.htm

SALLY, Elizabeth and James Perkins, both of P., Jan. 2, 1834 (int. not recorded).
Julia, Miss, and Thomas McKenney, both of P., int. Oct. 21, 1848.
Martha and Peletiah Rackliffe, both of P., Apr. __, 1834 (int. not recorded).
Mary, Miss, and Andrew McKinney, both of P., int. Oct. 15, 1831.
Rachel, Miss, and James McKinney, Jr., both of P., int. June 6, 1829.
William and Louise Perkins, both of P., Sept. __, 1836.

That's all I know about the Salley family. Have you found more information? I am interested in Martha Salley's parents, who they are and whre they are from. thank you.

Sarah Salley

JoLaughlin10 — 2008-10-19 06:50:08Z

I am looking for information concerning Sarah Salley. She was born about 1761 in Burke, North Carolina. I have the information where she married Fielden (Fielding) Sumpter, but cannot find out who her parents are. I don't think she is related to the Salley's from South Carolina. Can anyone help?

Re: Daniel SALLEY 1767-1851 Vassalboro, ME>Foxboro, MA

spacecadet8 — 2008-10-12 00:37:46Z

Dear Janis, I just found your reply about Daniel Salley of Vassalboro, Maine, that moved to Mass., Would you know if the James And Mary Salley, that sold land abve Ft. Weston, Be of Georgetown, Maine, Mary would have been from Hallowell. James has a brother Daniel, also an uncle Daniel. the above mentioned James is a Direct descendant, Son of John and Summerset McFadden Salley. Hope to hear from you soon. Esther Hooper, hoopere89 @yahoo.com

Re: Salley in Pittsburgh

KNINE620 — 2008-10-09 01:55:08Z

My living grandmother, Dorothy Pearl Fekety-Merrill, originally from McKeesport PA.
Dorothy's father was Francis "Frank" Alexander? Fekety Sr. (of PA)
Franks father was Alexander Fekety
Franks mother was Mary Unknown
Dorothy's mother was Pearl Priscilla Patrick/Petrik (PA)
Her parents were also named Alexander and Mary Patrick/Petrik
Frank and Pearl had 3 other children; Frank Fekety Jr., William E. Fekety, and Joann Mary Fekety-Tess, including my grandmother, Dorothy
I am not sure what generation ended the surname Fekete to Fekety?
If you can relate to this, feel; free to contact me via e-mail at knine620@aol.com :o)

Eastern Kentucky Salley Families

DrBillRice — 2008-09-10 21:24:13Z

Anne wrote [in part]:

I was very intrigued by your discussion of the Salley/Sallee surname as I am currently invested in my own genealogy research. As far as I have been able to figure out, my great-great grandfather was named Shiloh Salley and he was born in 1879 in Hazard, KY. He died there in 1946.

An additional interesting note is that, according to family legend, it was my great-grandmother (Shiloh's daughter in-law) that killed him. My main goal in the research that I have been doing is to possibly confirm/deny that story as well as to figure out from just what part of Europe my branch of the Salley's came from and when. I have also been told that we have some Native American blood, possibly Cherokee, and I have been looking for information on that as well.

« » « » « »
Anne: Shiloh SALLEY is the son of David Benjamin Salley, b.1859 VA, -as you probably knew. Although Shiloh’s death certificate indicates that he was born in 1879, he was actually born in January of 1883, probably in Perry County, Kentucky. He was shot by a family member and died a short time afterward; his death was ruled a homicide. When I visited the Perry County Salley’s many years ago, I did discuss the general family history with several of Shiloh’s relatives. My recollection is that it was not his daughter-in-law who shot him. I must admit that I am not now heavily involved in SALLEY genealogy, so details are no longer on the tip of my tongue. It will take some time to look through what I call my notes.

The early history of this line of Salley’s remains quite incomplete. This family lived in Southwestern Virginia as early as 1815, as I recall, and consistently used the surname “Salley”. It is very likely that descendants of this Salley family continue to live in the Scott, Grayson, and Lee County, Virginia areas. The family linage is clouded by the absence of written history and a sparseness of oral history. Several branches of the family moved into Eastern Kentucky prior to the Civil War. David Benjamin Salley was born in Lee County, Virginia in about 1859 and came to Kentucky with his family when he was less than a year old.

The surname in all the “early” records is “Salley”. It was only in much later generations that members of this family started using “Sallee” and “sallie”; in fact, less than 10 years ago, branches of this family lived within 20 miles of each other, spelled their surnames three different ways, and had no idea that they were related.

The origin of your particular branch of Salley’s is uncertain as is many of the Salley and Sallee families. As I said in earlier posts, “While some of our Salley-Sallee brethren may feel comfortable, or even confident, of a Swiss or French connection, it is far more likely that most of us have a less exotic connection to Ireland or England”, -or even Germany. Jack Salley, a valued contributor to this forum, has mentioned the renown explorer John Peter Salling as a possible, or likely, progenitor of the Southwestern Virginia Salley clan. That is a tantalizing possibility. However, the individual that is most responsible for that theory (not Jack) based it on flawed data. Nevertheless, John Peter Salling remains a greater possibility in my judgment than Heini Salin of Swiss fame does.

With regard to American Indian blood, perhaps your connection is through members of your family that married into the Salley family as it is in my case. I am not aware of any data or information that strongly suggests a Salley-American Indian connection in our Salley’s.

When I started working on the Eastern Kentucky Salley genealogy in the 1960’s, little was known beyond a generation or two. While progress has been made (-as examples, the David Benjamin Salley family was “discovered” less than 10 years ago and I only discovered my grandfather’s middle name last year), I am beginning to have the uncomfortable feeling that the proverbial brick wall isn’t in any eminent danger of falling.

But, having new researchers like yourself enter the hunt is encouraging. I would be surprised if somewhere there isn’t a stone left unturned…

Dr. Bill Rice, Kentucky

Re: Salley-Sallee Surname

DrBillRice — 2008-09-09 23:54:57Z

Anne wrote [in part]:

I was very intrigued by your discussion of the Salley/Sallee surname as I am currently invested in my own genealogy research. As far as I have been able to figure out, my great-great grandfather was named Shiloh Salley and he was born in 1879 in Hazard, KY. He died there in 1946.

An additional interesting note is that, according to family legend, it was my great-grandmother (Shiloh's daughter in-law) that killed him. My main goal in the research that I have been doing is to possibly confirm/deny that story as well as to figure out from just what part of Europe my branch of the Salley's came from and when. I have also been told that we have some Native American blood, possibly Cherokee, and I have been looking for information on that as well.

« » « » « »
Anne: Shiloh Salley is the son of David Benjamin Salley, b.1859 VA, -as you probably knew. Although Shiloh’s death certificate indicates that he was born in 1879, he was actually born in January of 1883 in Perry County, Kentucky. He was shot by a family member and died a short time afterward; his death was ruled a homicide. When I visited the Perry County Salley’s many years ago, I did discuss the general family history with several of Shiloh’s relatives. My recollection is that it was not his daughter-in-law who shot him. I must admit that I am not now heavily involved in genealogy, so details are no longer on the tip of my tongue. It will take some time to look through what I call my notes.

The early history of this line of Salley’s remains quite incomplete. This family lived in Southwestern Virginia as early as 1815, as I recall, and consistently used the surname “Salley”. It is very likely that descendants of this Salley family continue to live in the Scott, Grayson, and Lee County, Virginia areas. The family linage is clouded by the absence of written history and a sparseness of oral history. Several branches of the family moved into Eastern Kentucky prior to the Civil War. David Benjamin Salley was born in Lee County, Virginia in about 1859 and came to Kentucky with his family when he was less than a year old.

The surname in all the “early” records is “Salley”. It was only in much later generations that members of this family started using “Sallee” and “sallie”; in fact, less than 10 years ago, branches of this family lived within 20 miles of each other, spelled their surnames three different ways, and had no idea that they were related.

The origin of your particular branch of Salley’s is uncertain as is many of the Salley and Sallee families. As I said in earlier posts, “While some of our Salley-Sallee brethren may feel comfortable, or even confident, of a Swiss or French connection, it is far more likely that most of us have a less exotic connection to Ireland or England”, -or even Germany. Jack Salley, a valued contributor to this forum, has mentioned the renown explorer John Peter Salling as a possible, or likely, progenitor of the Southwestern Virginia Salley clan. That is a tantalizing possibility. However, the individual that is most responsible for that theory (not Jack) based it on flawed data. Nevertheless, John Peter Salling remains a greater possibility in my judgment than Heini Salin of Swiss fame does.

With regard to American Indian blood, perhaps your connection is through members of your family that married into the Salley family as it is in my case. I am not aware of any data or information that strongly suggests a Salley-American Indian connection in our Salley’s.

When I started working on the Eastern Kentucky Salley genealogy in the 1960’s, little was known beyond a generation or two. While progress has been made (-as examples, the David Benjamin Salley family was “discovered” less than 10 years ago and I only discovered my grandfather’s middle name last year), I am beginning to have the uncomfortable feeling that the proverbial brick wall isn’t in any eminent danger of falling.

But, having new researchers like yourself enter the hunt is encouraging. I would be surprised if somewhere there isn’t a stone left unturned…

Dr. Bill Rice, Kentucky

Re: Salley-Sallee Surname

knueveam — 2008-09-09 02:31:45Z

Dr. Rice,

I was very intrigued by your discussion of the Salley/Sallee surname as I am currently invested in my own genealogy research. As far as I have been able to figure out, my great-great grandfather was named Shiloh Salley and he was born in 1879 in Hazard, KY. He died there in 1946.

An additional interesting note is that, according to family legend, it was my great-grandmother (Shiloh's daughter in-law) that killed him. My main goal in the research that I have been doing is to possibly confirm/deny that story as well as to figure out from just what part of Europe my branch of the Salley's came from and when. I have also been told that we have some Native American blood, possibly Cherokee, and I have been looking for information on that as well.

You seem to be very invested in this topic and any additional information or resources that you are able to provide would be most appreciated. Thanks very much.

Sincerely,

Anne Knueven

Re: The Salley Clan Origin

Salleys180 — 2008-09-09 01:03:39Z

Anne Knueven,

The names, spelled Salin, Sallè, and Sallee can be traced to the early ages by the outstanding achievements in Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, and Rutlandshire County, England. Early records show that they were Episcopalians in England, and many descendants of these migrated to France and their descendants came to the American Colonies from France and from Switzerland.

It is a natural conclusion, on the part of Salley descendants from ancestors that came from France and Switzerland, that the name Salley was English during the 1600s and 1700s in the American Colonies.

Just like Swiss emigrant Heini Salin, who changed the spelling of his name to Henry Salley in 1735, many settlers in the American Colonies changed the spelling of their names to fit the English sound of the name during the late 1600s and in the 1700s.

I have not come across any records or publications that has listed any Salley family that moved from Europe to the state of Kentucky or Hazard, Perry Co., KY. Though there are a lot of families in Kentucky today that spell their last Salley and Sally.

Jack Salley

Re: The Salley Clan Origin

knueveam — 2008-09-07 13:56:06Z

Dear Jack,

I know your posting is from several years ago and you may not even be checking it now, but I had a few questions if you are. I have connections to a Leonard Salley (my maternal great grand father) and a Shiloh Salley (Leonard's father). This part of the family is from Kentucky, specifically Hazard Co. I wonder if you know of any European Salley's that settled in KY, in or around Hazard or other parts?

Thanks very much,

Anne Knueven

Re: Charlie and Hanson Salley

salleygirl57 — 2008-07-26 15:20:45Z

I am the grandaughter of Hanson Fanning and Charlie Salley. Are you a Cartledge. we are having a Fanning reunion in November. Have been trying to contact the cartledge children

Re: Salley-Sallee Surname

jlcutrer — 2008-07-04 17:53:00Z

I'm on ancestry.com regularly but don't know how to get to a flytree or to your Cutrer 1 site. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jane Cutrer

Alfred Crawford Salley, son of Benjamin Franklin Salley

Salleys180 — 2008-07-03 00:33:41Z

Benjamin Franklin Salley Family

Benjamin Franklin Salley was born July 18, 1828 at the home of his parents on the north side of the South River near Rocky Swamp Creek in the Orangeburg District, South Carolina. He was the fourth son of John Martin Salley and Elizabeth Pou who moved to Lowndes County, Alabama in 1828.

Benjamin Franklin's father, John Martin Salley, was born March 26, 1788 at the home of his parents (Henry Salley, Jr. and Ann Friday) on Goodland Creek, a tributary of South Edisto River in Orangeburg District, State of South Carolina. In 1828, John Martin Salley sold his one thousand (1,000) acres and moved from the State of South Carolina to Alabama, by wagon, where he established a plantation and resided until his death. Was elected Sheriff of Lowndes County, Alabama. He also served in the war with Mexico. According to the information on his monument at the City Cemetery in Hayneville, Lowndes County, Alabama – John Martin Salley died there in Hayneville September 28, 1836. The monument tombstone is a large flat slab of marble on the ground with his history and a farewell engraved on his marble tombstone.

Benjamin Franklin Salley married Lucretia Winiford Crawford, January 5, 1857, in Hayneville (Lowndes County), Alabama. She was born March 19, 1840 in Alabama, died April 12, 1936 and buried at the Bryant Cemetery in Arkansas. Living in Hayneville, Alabama and later moved to Bryant, Arkansas. Except for their third son Crawford Salley, nearly all of the Salleys became school teachers.

Benjamin Franklin Salley died April 30, 1908 and was buried at the Bryant Cemetery in Bryant, Arkansas.

Benjamin Franklin Salley, b. Jul. 18, 1828, d. Apr. 1908. Jan. 5, 1857, he married Lucretia Winiford Crawford, b. Mar. 19, 1840, d. Apr. 12, 1936.

Their children were:

1.) Mary Elizabeth (Salley) Davidson, b. Nov. 24, 1858, d. 1941. Married Joseph Andrew Davidson.

2.) William Henry Salley, b. Jul. 30, 1860, d. Mar. 9, 1932. In 1892 he married Louetta Taylor Bagby, b. Mar. 30, 1874, d. Dec. 31, 1925.

3.) Ada Frances (Salley) Read, b. Sep. 7, 1861, d. May 8, 1946. April 12, 1894, she married Dr. Corin Read, b. Des. 24, 1839, d. 1910.

4.) Robert Emmett Salley, b. Oct. 29, 1867, d. 1945. Married Arcenia Nothern.

5.) Eunice N. (Salley) Harrison, b. Aug. 23, 1869, d. 1943. Aug. 30, 1898, she married Rev. Tom Harrison.

6.) Mary Alereah 'Mollie' (Salley) Horn, b. 1871, d. 1920. Married L. Bern Horn

7.) Alfred Crawford Salley, b. 1874, d. 1926. Married Alice Traylor.

8.) George Fredrick Salley, b. 1876, d. 1896. Not married, died about age 20.

9.) Charlie Mordecai Salley, b. 1878, d. 1881. Died in childhood.

Alfred Crawford Salley was born July 22, 1873 in Hayneville, Alabama. He was the third son of Benjamin Franklin Salley and Lucretia Winford Crawford who lived in Hayneville, Alabama and later in Bryant, Arkansas.

Alford Crawford Salley married Alice Cora Traylor February 4, 1904 in Arkansas. Their children were:

1.) Bonnie Mable Salley, b. Sept. 19, 1904. Married Hosea Ladd, b. Aug. 4, 1895, d. 1981. They had 8 children.

2.) Lyra Perla (Salley), b. Oct. 19, 1906. Married Leo Mertens.

3.) Ada Reda Salley, b. Oct 11, 1908, n.m.

4.) Glynn Scott Salley, b. Nov. 2, 1910, d. Feb. 2, 1972. Married Norma Jean Wills. They had two daughters.

5.) Clark Woodrow Salley, b. April 10, 1914. d. Nov. 31, 1966. Married Arvie Williams.

Jack Salley
Salleys@myexcel.com

Re: Alfred Crawford Salley Family

Kathyjam03 — 2008-07-01 04:19:18Z

I am also researching this Salley family. Bonnie Mabel Salley Ladd's daughter Fairy Lee married my mother's brother, John Reed Graves. Fairy and Reed divorced and she is now married to Cline Taylor.
I was looking at the 1880 census record for Saline County, Arkansas, and it shows that Benjamin and Lucretia had two daughters named Mary. Is that correct?
Can anyone tell me who Mary E (if that name is correct), born about 1858, Eunice N, born about 1869, and Mary L (if name is correct), born about 1871, married?
And does anyone have a picture of Benjamin and Lucretia?
And a picture of Crawford and his wife Alice?
I live in Saline County, which is where many of the Salleys are buried. If anyone wants a picture of a headstone or an obituary, please let me know. I plan on gathering those in the next week or two.

Kathy Flynt James

Re: African-American Salleys in SC (Salley SC)

VerlonSalley — 2008-05-05 18:00:46Z

though it's 8 years later. I may can help you with the Bamberg Salleys

Re: Salley Family in Australia

dat16001 — 2008-04-14 08:35:11Z

please contact me at

dat1600 (at) ncable.net.au

to discuss Salley Family

Re: Isaac Salley again

lmchilders — 2008-02-20 05:29:17Z

In 1850 census as Isaac Salley's wife is listed as Sarah not Sally Did he have more than one wife??

Re: Isaac Salley again

lmchilders — 2008-02-20 05:26:35Z

Hannah Watts Jackson Salley's parents were William Jackson and Emma both born in England. Most of the Rhode Island Salleys are listed at Rhode Island Historical cemeteries.

Re: Isaac Salley again

lmchilders — 2008-02-20 04:50:26Z

Marianna Cates parents were William L. Cates 1883-1880 and Hannah Sweet 1843-1880

Re: Isaac Salley again

lmchilders — 2008-02-20 04:46:21Z

My mother is the grandaughter of Fred William Salley and Marianna E Cates My mom says it is one name. Fred Was in a wheelchair possibly injured in a war. Elwin Leroy Salley was my grandfather and he fought in WW1 I can't find records on it except a letter from Jimmy Carter upon his death. I have a copy of his obit which also names Marianna as his mother. He was married twice once to Marjorie and then to Gracia St.Cyr. They had 3 children. all living.
I believe it is Uriah according to 1850 1870 1900 census and 1890 veterans schedule. only 1880 has ariah and 1910 has wriah Lalley. What you have after uriah does clear things up for me Thank-you and I would be very interested in that Anthology when you get it done!

Re: Isaac Salley again

maineglen — 2008-02-20 00:57:17Z

OOPs! I found a reference in the 1870 Census Ariah's name there was spelled Uriah. A or U, that is the question, ha! Says also that as of 7 June of 1870 (date of Census) he and Hannah were just married in May 1870., she was born 1852 in England. Her mother and father were also born in England (no names tho). They were living in Ward 1, Worcester, MA.

Re: Isaac Salley again

maineglen — 2008-02-20 00:00:17Z

In my records I show "Ariah"Salley not Uriah. Reference the original 1880 Census you can see the first letter was originally written "U" by The recorder, but changed to 'A" over top of the U. He resided in Woonsocket, RI on 1880 Census,married to Anna (unknown last name)b.1844 England, and was the father of Fred Salley(8 yo)b. May 1872(note no "W" in name. There were three other Salleys in the house, Irwin,9;Roy,5;Angie,2; and Maria Taylor, age 14.Ariah was age 50, and Anna was 28. Even though the age difference was 22 years between them, she was listed as his wife. Mary Taylor is listed as his cousin. 20yrs later,in the 1900 Census Fred W.((the "W" appears now), Salley is listed 28 yo,married to Mary A.(Cates) age 27 (not Marianna)is listed as his wife, b. June 1872. Children are listed Ralph W. age 4 and Marion E.(girl) age 2. They all lived in Woonsocket,RI.
In the 1910 Census they are listed again with the previous two children and one more Ellvin, age 9.Woonsocket again. However in 1920 Census, her name becomes Marianna. I think the recorder misspelled her name when she told him it was and Mary Anna and combined it. (it was Mary A on the two previous Census) Please correct you records to reflect that it is Mary Anna. 1930 Census says Mary Anna. I carefully looked at all original Census and Elwin is the correct spelling for their son, not Ellvin.
Ariah Salley was the son of Elias Salley,and Elias was the son of Isaac b.1774 in Norridgewock,ME d.22 Apr 1853; married to Sally Savage b.1778 Savage island,ME;d.16 Jan 1856. Isaacs' father was John Salley b. 3 Jan 1738,Georgetown,ME;m.Margaret Savage b.1734, Accomack,VA.d.17 Feb 1818. After all this did I clear up anything?Ha! Still piecing alot of things together with tons of paperwork to enter as wife and I visiting alot of cemeteries upstate in last few years. Hope to get a book done next year on "Anthology of New England Salley Families".

Re: Isaac Salley again

lmchilders — 2008-02-04 06:13:29Z

Hello
I too am searching for info on the Salley's from Maine and find it very confusing with there being more than one family. Here is what I have. Elwin L Salley 1900RI-1979MA his parents Fred W Salley 1872MA m. Marianna Cates. Fred was the son of Uriah Salley 1830 and Hannah Jackson. Uriah's father Elias Salley 1804 Maine married to Mary Dunlap. Elias father Isaac Salley Jr 1782 of Maine married to Sally Savage. I can only assume his father was Isaac Salley Sr. Any info would really be appreciated.