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Native American Heratige

Ray Underwood  (View posts) Posted: 26 Jan 2008 5:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, All!

When I first met my biological Father, Carl Truman, I learned that I had Native American ancestors (though, I think only on my biological Mother's side, but I'm not sure). If this is true, I would like to know how much and of what tribe. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Ray C. Underwood

Re: Native American Heratige

mebateman1  (View posts) Posted: 30 Jun 2008 1:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Truman
When did Carl Truman live and where, who was your biological mother? Do you have names, dates, locations? If you can get to 1930 or before I can check the census for you.

Re: Native American Heratige

Ray Underwood  (View posts) Posted: 9 Aug 2009 12:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the response, Mebateman1. Sorry for taking so long in responding. Geneology has not been a priority in my life because of numerous other things, including being remarried, all sorts of National Guard training, and expecting a baby in November.

So, in response to your post, I'm pasting some information that someone else posted for me a number of years ago. I hope that it helps. Here it is:

"Hello, my name is Connie Tollefson and I am your biological fathers 1st cousin. Carl is the oldest of his brothers and sisters. Roy is next, then the twins Paul and Pauline, then there is Rose. The last time that I visited South Dakota and saw Carl, he showed me a picture of you and told of the last visit that you had with him. Your father is a gentle person with a lot of love for people and thru out his life thing did not happen as well as they could have. He still lives in the same place as he did when he saw you last. I'm sure that he would like to hear from you and he will tell you about his family. However, if you do have a hard time contacting him, let me know and I will help you with it. He has a telephone. A few years back, he had to have an angeoplastic due cholesterol build up. By the way your grandfathers name was Marion, who was a younger brother to my father. In oldest to youngest is, George Tedrow, Charles Wesley (my father), Iva Jane, Marian Thomas, Elma Rose (went by Rose), and then Homer Ernest. They are all gone now from, you guessed it, cholesteral build up. Your greatgrandfathers name was Wesley James Truman or and your grandmothers name was Eldora Mae or May (Maiden name Meeker) was your greatgrandmothers name. By the way are you a minister of a church yet?"

I hope that this helps you. I know that a lot of people say that they have Native American blood in them, though it's not always the truth. For me, if there is documentation, that's great. If not, that's fine, too.

Also, something else I would like to know. Are there any Homesteaders in either of my families? My (deceased) biological mother is Cindy Packard (Zeeb/Harra), and her mother (still alive) is Bernice Harra. Some information that was given to me concerning my biological mother is:

"I was just browsing through genology, and read 2 very interesting messages,so glad you are wanting to know about your biolagal mothers family Ray, I can help you get a start, as you already know, your birth mother Cindy is my sister, she was born Feb. 2, 1957 in Hot Springs, South Dakota. Our parents are William Jacob Zeeb born April 25, 1916 in Scotland S.D. and Bernice Lavern (Haht) Zeeb, born Dec. 25, 1926, in Paullina, IA. We have two more sisters,Twila and Kay. Our grandparents,Peter Zeeb and Elizabetha (Bender) Zeeb were Germans born in Russia,Peter April 11, 1874,Died Sept. 24, 1922 and Elizabetha born May 13, 1874 died May 13, 1932. They and several of their 8 children,(John,Alexander, Martha,and Katherine), are all buried in the Cematary, in Scotland, S.D.I am not sure if Magdelena is buried in Scotland or Tyndall. S.D. The other 4 childdren, My dad William, is buried in Garberville, CA., Peter buried in Oroville, CA. and Henry buried in Paullina, IA. On your grandmothers side, she was born to Ernest Haht,and Elizabeth (Thomas) Haht. He passed away at the age of 69, in 1965, she passed away at the very young age of 32, in 1929.They were also German. There were 6 children in her family, Delbert, Mildred, Melvin,(deceasd) Henry, and William (deceasd) The story goes that when Great grandfather Haht, he is your great-great grandfather, arrived in America, he had only 10 cents in his pocket, he stopped IA. worked and saved some money, then took a wife, her name was Anna Warnke, they were married 51 years. They bought a farm close to Paullina, and raised 12 children, 2 of these children, Emil (93) and Agnes (86) are still living."

I know that this is a lot of information. I hope that it's helpful from your research on either side of my family. If you want to respond to me in private, E-mail me at rcunderwood@juno.com or rcunderdog@yahoo.com

Again, thank you for your time and help.

Very Respectfully,

Ray C. Underwood

Re: Native American Heratige

mebateman1  (View posts) Posted: 9 Aug 2009 2:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Truman, Haht
1920 IA O'brien Co Baker city
Haht Henry head 58 GERM GERM GERM farmer
Haht Annie wife 46 IL GERM GERM mecklenberg
Haht John son 26 IA
Haht Mary dau 25 IA
Haht Mary dau 25 IA
Haht Earnest son 23 IA
Haht Willie son 21 IA
Haht Louie son 16 IA
Haht Emil son 12 IA
Haht Wilma dau 16 IA
Haht Elmer son 8 IA
Haht Agnes dau 5 IA

1915 IA State census O'brien Co Baker city
this is a white family
this family is Lutheran
Agnes Haht 1 b. IA father b. GERM mother b. IL
Anna Haht 41 b. IL father b. GERM mother b. GERM (years in IA 38)
Earnest Haht 18 b. IA (years in IA 18)
Elmer Haht 3 b. IA
Emil Haht 7 b. IA
George Haht 14 or 17 b. IA
Harry Haht 9 b. IA
Henry Haht 53 b. GERM (years in IA 35)
Louie Haht 12 b. IA
Mary Haht 20 b. IA
Velma Haht 5 b. IA
Willie Haht 16 b. IA

1900 IA O'brien Co Union city
Haht Henry head Oct 1862 38 married 8yrs GER GER GER
Haht Anna wife Dec 1874 25 married 8yrs 5 born 5 living IL GERM GERM
Haht Johnie son Feb 1893 7 IA GER IL
Haht Mary dau Jun 1895 5 IA GER IL
Haht Ernest son Aug 1896 4 IA GER IL
Haht Willie son Jun 1897 2 IA GER IL
Haht Geroge son Apr 1900 2/12 IA GER IL

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1920 WY Crook Co Election Dist11
this family labeled white
Truman Wesley head 31 mar IA IL IL farmer
Truman Eldora wife 20 mar SD MO IA
Truman George son 3 6/12 ND
Truman Charles son 1 1/12 WY

Here is a tree for Eldora's family on rootsweb.com
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

Re: Native American Heratige

Ray Underwood  (View posts) Posted: 9 Aug 2009 3:13AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the information. It looks like there isn't any Native American heritage on my biological father's side so far. If you have any other information, please pass it on. You can either post it here or E-mail it to me. Being a novice at this, it'll take me a while to really go through it. But, I definitely appreciate the information.

Again, thanks for your time and help.

Very Respectfully,

Ray C. Underwood

Re: Native American Heratige

mebateman1  (View posts) Posted: 9 Aug 2009 3:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Truman
Here's more census. It looks like Wesley James Truman may have also gone by James Wesley Truman:
1930 SD Butte Co tsp9
Truman James W head 41 married at 26 IA unk unk farmer
Truman Eldora M wife 39 married at 24 SD MO IA
Truman George T son 13 ND
Truman Charles W son 11 WY
Truman Dale F son 9 WY
Truman Iva J H dau 6 WY
Truman Marion T son 3 10/12ths WY
Truman Elma R dau 6/12ths SD

WWI Draft registration
James W Truman
age 28
add Bell Fouche SD
b. Dec 16, 1888
in Coon Rapids IA
dependants wife and child
married
white
short
medium build
brown eyes
black hair
as of Jun 5, 1917

Re: Native American Heratige

mebateman1  (View posts) Posted: 9 Aug 2009 4:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Zeeb
1930 SD BonHomme Co Scotland city
Zeeb Elizabeth head white 55 widow Russia Russia Russia
Zeeb Wm grandson 14 SD SD SD

1920 SD Yankton Odessa
Zeeb Peter head 45 mar RUS RUS RUS
Zeeb Elisabetha wife 45 mar RUS RUS RUS
Zeeb John H R son 20 SD
Zeeb Magdaline C dau 17 SD
Zeeb Henry son 13 SD
Zeeb Catherine E dau 8 SD
Zeeb Peter R son 6 SD
Zeeb William J son 3 8/12 SD

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