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1880 US Census Citations

roncon60  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 12:51PM GMT
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What is the "House number" that is now added to the individual record for all 1880 US Census recoords that I have recently revisited? This data wasn't a part of the record in the past...!!!

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

frostfreedet  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 3:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Beginning with the 1850US Census, the enumerators were to assign a dwelling number and household number to each group/individual.

The actual records have these numbers.

Since what Ancestry.com calls 'the record' (extracts from the actual record done by who-knows-who, with many-many-errors of many types) is not the actual record, you should always look at the actual image. The Ancestry.com extracts not only have names misread; also places the enumeration was taken (some nonexistent), places of birth (just for instance, in 1850 the abbreviation "Ia" meant *Indiana* not *Iowa*), occupations, and names of members of the household may be added from a completely different family from several pages away . . . the extracts are riddled with errors.

If you want to know whether Ancestry.com is using the household number or the dwelling number, check the actual image.

Always look at the actual image.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

BobNY  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 5:45PM GMT
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Either you didn't understand the question or you did not look at the actual image. Always look at the actual image.

The image does not have the numbers that the poster is referring to. These are not the dwelling number or the household number that appear on the population schedule. These are some 7 or 8 digit numbers that appear to have no discernible relation to the person, the household or the dwelling, other than they are sequential on the page.

Another example of ancestry making up stuff to put in these supposed records.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

ancestryanne  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 7:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
I looked at a couple of 1880 images and I don't see the number you are referring to. Can you post a URL so I can see which field your are refering to?\

And I agree -- always look at the image and if it is one you care about save it somewhere, your desktop software, your hard drive, somewhere you have easy access to. The record that we store is primarily a finding aid and it's secondary purpose is to help you interpret the image. There is always a lot of valuable information on the image itself.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

ancestryanne  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 7:41PM GMT
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I figured out where you are seeing it -- on the record page.

That is an internal code we use to identify records that go together in one household and it should not be surfaced on the page.

It will be removed shortly.

Anne

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

frostfreedet  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 8:11PM GMT
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If the original poster had given a link to what was in question, or a name / location, it would have been possible to look at the actual item asked about. No mind-reading here.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

BobNY  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 8:31PM GMT
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Can't be more specific that ALL 1880 census.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

roncon60  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 9:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
If you would have pulled up any of your records from 1880 you would have seen what I am referring to. It is not on the image it is on the record.....

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

roncon60  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 9:45PM GMT
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Your assuming I don't look at the actual image is an insult to your intelligence.

Re: 1880 US Census Citations

frostfreedet  (View posts) Posted: 22 Oct 2009 10:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Original query was about the Ancestry.com so-called 'record' pages recently revisited by that person for 1880 US Federal Census records (locations, enumerations not given).

That it was more generally true for all 1880 Ancestry.com extracts is your conclusion unless you were able to review them all in the space of a few hours.
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