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1830 Todd Kentucky – source image problem

sageflat  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 11:52AM GMT
Classification: Query

It seems that 1830 Todd is indexed, that is all names are searchable, however, when looking at the original source image the left-hand portion of the image where the names would be is missing.

Here’s an example:

Coleman Griffin b.1770 living residence 1830 Todd Kentucky:

Found in the index.

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

Source image missing left-hand side.

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbi...

And it appears to be this way on many pages within this roll (KYM19_41).

Is there any other source for the images?

How could these be indexed with images missing names?

Cheers.

Re: 1830 Todd Kentucky – source image problem

JoMac53  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 5:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
1830 is a two page census. The names are on every other page and the information continues on to the following page with columns for slaves, freed colored persons, etc, but no names. Then the third page will have new names again and so on. But the index link is taking you to the wrong page, one of the second pages with no names. Coleman Griffin could be on the page before or after the one the index link is taking you to (or somewhere else). You should report a wrong image problem to Ancestry via the "Having problems viewing this image?" link. It may be a known problem and already reported but the squeeky wheel gets the oil, especially on Ancestry.com.

Re: 1830 Todd Kentucky – source image problem

BobNY  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 5:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
That is the least of the problems that ancestry is having with these particular images. Bear with me on this explanation, it gets sticky.

The population schedules for the 1830 census cover 2 pages. The first page, which has the name of the head of household, contains the count of free white persons, male and female, divided by age groups. The second page conains the count of slaves, free colored persons and the totals. You are looking at the second page of an enumeration.

However, it is the second page of the WRONG household. If you look at ancestry's supposed "record," the source citation is:
Year: 1830
Census Place: , Todd, Kentucky
Roll 41
Page: 368

However, when you click through on View Original Image, you are brought to the page you are referencing, which is page 373B, i.e., the second page with slaves and free coloreds. If you page back to 368 you will find your target. But, ancestry has cut off the top of the page and you can't see the page numbers. You will need to go to image 11 of 63. The 11th name down is Coleman Griffin.

Even if you get this far, ancestry lets you down by cutting off the column headings, particularly on the second page. The entry for Griffin contains the following:

Free White Persons - Male
Age 20-30: 1
Age 50-60: 1

Free White Persons - Female
Age 10-15: 1
Age 15-20: 1
Age 20-30: 1
Age 50-60: 1

Slaves
None

Free Colored Persons
None

TOTAL: 6

Re: 1830 Todd Kentucky – source image problem

sageflat  (View posts) Posted: 24 Jun 2009 6:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks Bob,

I understand, in theroy, what has happened. Now I want to look at 5 more Griffin's:

P369 (3 names)
P383
and
P388

369a should be +2 from 368a or image 13,, and yep that's correct.

383a should be +30 (2*(383-368)) or image 41,, and nope it's an a record but not the correct one. In fact image 40 is the correct image, so two a records in a row.

388a should be +40 (2*(388-368) or image 51,, and again nope it's also an a record but not the correct one. 53 is where 388a is.

Looks like 1830 Todd is totally torqued.

Thanks again for your help.

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