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Re: Thomas Willson at Abbotts Creek Township in North Carolina

ElizHarris — 2009-08-22 23:23:02Z

I don't have a Thomas Willson or Wilson this old in my personal database, which includes most of the early Moravian settlers in NC. However, I may be able to help you find more about him. Please write me privately, at ncgen@mindspring.com

It will help me get started trying to help you if you can tell me approximately when he moved to NC, and what the information is that suggests he was a Moravian.

Thomas Willson at Abbotts Creek Township in North Carolina

jmarkw59 — 2009-08-22 20:53:21Z

I'm looking for information about a Thomas Willson (born 1719) who migrated from Warren, NJ to Abbotts Creek Township near Winston-Salem, NC. Some information indicates that he was a Moravian. The family eventually changed the spelling to Wilson.

Stoudt

cwhite727 — 2009-05-27 03:05:34Z

I am looking for Pauline E. Stoudt (married name)born about 1905 or her daughter Betty J. Stoudt born about 1926. In the 1930 census the husband/father was Harry Stoudt born about 1898. Pauline states she was married at age 15 and Harry's occupation is barber. I have a picture of Betty when she was maybe 6 or 8 but no one in our family has any record of her beyond that picture as the father and step-mother died many years ago. Harry was born in Lebanon County but sometime between then and 1930 he was in Reading, Berks County, PA.

Moravian Mission in Tibet

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-09 13:10:47Z

I'm searching for information on the Moravian Missions in Tibet, specially about Missionary Friederich A. Redslob (1838-1891)and Bishop to the Himalayas Friederich E. Peter their Descendants. F.A. Redslob (aka the Builder) was the founder of the Leh Mission Station, the school and medical Center. He also Translated was one of the main contributors to the Bible Tranlation to Tibetan.
One of F.A. Redslob's sons, Friederich [Fritz] Redslob emigrated to USA in the eraly 20th century.
Joachim

Poland Family, Illgenfritz/Ellifritz family

jkcrockett1941 — 2009-04-06 18:34:40Z

I am on a fishing trip. My family is descended from a John William Poland (b.1806) and a Phoebe Ellifritz/Illgenfritz, d/o George Ellifritz and Keturah Clark. I noticed that there were Illgenfritz's listed in the Moravian Church and thought that I might find a connection to my family. Hampshire, West Virginia is where they were married. judi

Re: Moravian Church Ireland

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-06 16:12:10Z

Hello Dereck,
Here is some of the Info I have in my sources:
Samuel Hoch, arrived in Jamaica Feb 1821, withdrawal 1824

He died On April 1838, at Ockbrook, near Derby, in his 60th year, for many years had been employed as a Missionary in Surinam, Antigua, Jamaica, and St. Kitts.

Some other sources that might be helpful: A history of Fulneck school, By William Templeton Waugh, Published by Richard Jackson, 1909,61 pages

If you are interested in a more in depth research shout me an email(contact@zerofield.com)

Joachim

Re: Moravian Church Ireland

lowds — 2009-04-06 15:25:27Z

Joachim

Would you have any information on a Benjamin HOCH's time in Ireland. He is believed to have been a teacher at Grace Hill, Antrim in about 1839. He was a son of Samuel HOCH, Missionary in the Carribean from 1805 to 1835. Benjamin was born in Jamaica in about 1821; was a teacher at Fulneck in about 1838, and at Ockbrook in about 1851.

It is believed that Fulneck had problems in placing the children of Samuel (Benjamin and Samuel Jr.)after they had finished their own schooling.

Thank you for any information you are able to pass on to me.

Derek

Re: Heller-Peters Moravian families in Alsace France

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-06 12:35:44Z

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Re: Moravian Church Ireland

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-05 22:25:46Z

Hi Kuitems,

Dismissal from the early congregations could have been for many reasons, among the the refusal to comply with the arranged marriages. It was a common custom for the board to select the wife and the submit it to the lot (containing yes no and sometimes blank, specially for missionaries. However dismissal was also on the grounds of breaking the congregations strict rules. This generally temporary as seems to be the case with your ancestor. The best place to find out what rally happened would be the congregations diary, where this matters were usually registered.
Hope this helps,
Joachim

Re: Moravian Church Ireland

kuitems1 — 2009-04-05 17:53:22Z

Thank you for the information Joachim! Can anyone enlighten me as to practices regarding marriage outside the Moravian Church. My ancestor is listed as being dismissed or leaving in 1805. Yet he brought all of his children to be baptized at Gracehill and in 1819 his wife was accepted into the communion. I'm guessing he was married outside of the Moravian Church but have yet to find the evidence.

Re: Heller-Peters Moravian families in Alsace France

albertmail — 2009-04-05 15:21:47Z

Hallo Herr Schubert,

vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort und weiterhin viel Spaß bei der Forschung!

Viele Grüße
D. Albert

Schumacher-Heller Family in Bethlehem, Pa

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-05 14:38:41Z

I'm researching Johann Schumacher from Bethlehem Pa. who married Sophie Marianne Heller (*1833 Gnadenfrei - 1866 idem)
According to the Gnadenfrei Diary Sophie Mariane emigrated in 1856 to bethlehem to marry J. Schumacher.
If anyone is researching the Bethlehem diary I would aprreciate a lookup.
J. Schubert

Re: Moravian Church Ireland

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-05 14:24:19Z

Hi kuitems1,

Yes contact between the Ireland churches was constant with the congregations in England, Germany, and the rest of the world. The children used to be send to the boarding school in Fulneck, England;
here are some examples of the mobility between congregations;
Rev. Johann Steinhauer III, born in Riga in 1732, was principal of Fulneck from 1792-97, and became superintendent of the Ireland congregations from 1797.
John Mongomery, born in Ballykennedy, near Gracehill in Ireland, converted in 1758, became a preacher at Ahoghill that same year; He was the father of the Moravian Poet James M., served in Irvine in Scotland and became missionary in the west Indies, founding the Tobago Mission, later named after him, and died in Barbados.
The Moravian Church was the First really International Church, dedicating and enormous amount of resources, and people to this endeavor. At one point the was 1 missionary for every 80 members. People of all professions and walks of life would end up being missionaries at the most remote places in the world.

Re: Heller-Peters Moravian families in Alsace France

JoachimSchubert — 2009-04-05 13:38:04Z

Hallo Herr Albert,

Nach weitere forshung ist Mariane Peters in Surbourg in Wiborg(Viborg)geboren. Sie hat Johann Isaac Heller erst in sarepta geheiratet. Dieswegen handelt es sich wolmoeglich um eine andere Familie.

Joachim Schubert

Re: Heller-Peters Moravian families in Alsace France

albertmail — 2009-04-05 11:30:23Z

Hallo Herr Schubert,
schon längere Zeit forsche ich nach dem Namen Paulsen in der Region Elsass-Lothringen, bin aber bis jetzt noch keinen großen Schritte weiter gekommen. Nun habe ich Ihre Meldung gelesen und bin dabei auf den Namen Paulsen in Verbindung mit der Region Elsass (Alsace) gestoßen. Haben Sie Informationen über diese Familie (Wohnort?)und Nachfahren? Mein Proband ist ein gewisser Johann Carl Paulsen, geboren am 15.7.1838 im Elsass.
Wäre dankbar für eine Antwort Ihrerseits.
Viele Grüße
Dieter Albert

Church of the Brethren 1750 Philadelphia PA

2009-02-24 21:22:46Z

I am in search of information about the Philadelphia congregation and the records and burial ground that I believe existed along with the church. In particular, I am searching for information on Nicholas and son Zachariah Sr. who came to Philadelphia in 1737 from Denmark. If you don't have specific information but can direct me in any way I would appreciate. Mary Benton-Nicholas

Re: Wolle

2009-02-24 21:21:45Z

Rev. Edwin S. Wolle married a great aunt of ours at the Second Moravian Church in Philadelphia in 1909. Would he 'fit' in with your Wolle family?

Re: Adolph Scherer (Sherer) Tuscarawas Ohio Sharon Valley

Sshort114 — 2008-12-31 06:59:54Z

I am researching Adolph Sherer and would like very much to exchange information with you. I am a descendent of John Adolph Sherer-Henry Sherer-Harold Sherer. I am easiest to contact through E-mail Sshort@linkcity.org Looking forward to your answer Sandy Short

Re: Adolph Scherer (Sherer) Tuscarawas Ohio Sharon Valley

Sshort114 — 2008-12-31 06:56:56Z

I am a descendent of Adolph Sherer and have had no information concerning his brother Ferdinand's descendents. Please contact me so we can share information concerning this family. I am easiest to contact through my E-mail Sshort@linkcity.org Looking forward to your answer, Sandy Short

Re: SCHMALING of Lancaster Co., PA

smschlack — 2008-12-05 12:10:33Z

Good morning,
I am not related to SCHMALING personally, just doing a look up for someone using my Bethlehem and Nazareth Moravian sources. Susan Schlack

Re: SCHMALING of Lancaster Co., PA

DTshudy — 2008-12-05 02:48:31Z

PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU ARE STILL ONLINE RE: MORAVIAN GEORGE SCHMALING CONNECTION AND BURIAL PLACE.

Re: SCHMALING of Lancaster Co., PA

DTshudy — 2008-12-05 02:45:12Z

Please contact me re: Moravian George Schmaling's possible connection and burial place if you are still online.

Re: Pennsylvania Moravians, Gnaddehutten Massacre

andrewnitch — 2008-11-27 12:01:33Z

Hey katie,
Its wierd finding a thread on this site written by my father's sister's daughter. Haha. My dad still keeps up with the history and all that. You should ask him about Martin and David sometime. He's told me about the massacre countless times but I forget how everyones related.
Happy thanksgiving,

andrewnitchman

Moravian Archives Bethlehem Pa

thewds — 2008-11-23 18:17:43Z

Would there be anyone out there who does lookups at the Moravian Archives in Bethlehem Pa? I am seeking a baptismal record c May 9 1765, from the Records/Inventory of Moravian Church in Monacacy Md,whose records are held with the Northern provinces at this location. I have the catalog listing and reference number from their website, but live out of state so I am unable to visit and do the lookup myself. I am willing to pay mileage, parking, copy fees, but feel the fee of $50.00 that the Archives charges for this is out of my price range for a baptismnal record.

Could anyone help or give me other suggestions?

Re: Looking for Kilbuck ancestors

akfox3672 — 2008-09-28 21:55:08Z

there are several books on John and Edith Kilbuck. Some are The Real People and the Children of Thunder The Yup'ik Eskimon Encounter with Moravian Missionaries John and Edith Kilbuck. The author is Ann Fienup-Riordan. ISBN:0-8061-2329-X.
another one is Yup'ik Eskimos As described in th etravel Journals and Ethnographic Accounts of John and Edith Kilbuck 1855-1900 by the same autor above. ISBN: 0-919642-17-9 I am pretty sure it tells how he got his name in the first book I mentioned.

Re: Konnoak Hills Moravian Church, Forsyth Co, NC

BvMa1 — 2008-09-11 20:41:37Z

You can call the church office and they will but you in touch with the church historian; a wonderful kind woman; who will answer your questions. The Moravians kept detailed journals through their whole lives and the church keeps them after amember passes. The have a room filed with journals, pictures, and items from the start of the original Hope Indiana church, it burned many years ago. I also got information from the Hope Public Library. Good Luck Mary

Loike(Lorkiw) Moravian Family from Gnadenfrei

JoachimSchubert — 2008-08-19 23:33:03Z

Looking for descendants and ancestors of The Loike or Lorkiw family from Gnadenfrei.
My great great Grandmother was Luise Loike born in Gnadenfrei the 12.Nov.1808. Her Parents were Johann Gottfried Loike and Sophie Riegelmann. She was married to Timotheus Gottfried Heller from Sarepta, Russia.

Heller-Peters Moravian families in Alsace France

JoachimSchubert — 2008-08-19 23:25:14Z

I'm looking for Ancestors and descendants of the Heller-Peters family, originally from Strasburg (strassburg, Strasbourg most Likely in Alsace France)
Johann Isaac Heller [son of Abraham Heller from strasburg and Maria Margarethe Müller]*abt.1765 strasburg + +06.Jan.1829 in the moravian Colony of Sarepta, Russia; oo Mariana Peters or Petersin [daughter of Peter Anders and Annen Christinen Paulsen]*24.Aug.1766 in Surbourg, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France.
They has 7 Children in sarepta.

Non Member Records

teyoung — 2008-06-19 05:52:26Z

I once met a researcher, who told me that Moravians often performed baptisms and such for non members. He further stated that these records were kept in separate books and reported two places where these might be found.

I'm certain that one place was Bethlehem which appears to be the congregation records. Unfortunately, I do not remember the location of the non member records. Easton, maybe? Does any of this sound familar?

The congregations of interest are Allemaengel/Lynn and Oley in Pennsylvania.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Re: Moravian Surnames

lovestitchn — 2008-04-23 00:50:20Z

I was looking on your site for Wolle. they are my friends family. They had alot to do with the Bach choir at Moravian Church.

Re: CURRENT INQUIRIES ABOUT SURNAME CRATER, GRETER, GRATER

pbolton2000 — 2008-04-17 17:24:41Z

Thank you for responding to my inquiry. I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I would love to get any information about the Rominger line in Indiana. I live in Dunkirk, Indiana and plan to get to Hope, Indiana to visit the grave sites there. I would love to find out if I have any distant relatives from that line still living there. I would love to hear from you. My e-mail is pbolton2000@hotmail.com.

Patti

Re: Hope Indiana Moravians

nelland — 2008-04-03 14:09:54Z

All,

My ancestor, Humphrey Mullikin (Mullican) is said to have removed to Hope, IN from Winston Salem, NC in 1818 and lived on a farm there. Would it be possible for someone to check to see whether there is a record of his burial there? Many thanks in advance for any help.

Nancy Thompson
Huntingtown, MD

Re: CURRENT INQUIRIES ABOUT SURNAME CRATER, GRETER, GRATER

ElizHarris — 2008-04-02 12:56:27Z

Faye Moran and I have a lot of information on these families in NC, prior to their move to Indiana. Our Greter/Crater page is at

http://www.fmoran.com/greter.html

Just at the moment I'm too busy with work-related stuff to be able to spend much time on genealogy, but I would be happy to help you with your NC ancestors as time permits. You can write me directly at ncgen@mindspring.com

Lokking for original record - marriage in Litiz Church, PA

richbrad — 2008-04-02 04:13:40Z

I have seen a transcript for a marriage in 1745 in the Litiz Church, Lancaster County. PA for a Daniel Ohareson to Elis. Ramsey. I think the name given as "Ohareson" is a transcription error. Does anyone have access to the original or photocopies of the original? Or, how would I obtain photocopies of the original?

Re: CURRENT INQUIRIES ABOUT SURNAME CRATER, GRETER, GRATER

catlvrbbw — 2008-04-02 02:45:33Z

Hi there,
I am in Indiana also. My Essex line from Hope, IN (my mother's maiden name) goes back to a Lewis Essex who was born in NC. His sister Catharina Essex married a John (greter) Crater. Catharina Crater died at age 95 in Winston Salem, NC (b. 1 Jul 1800 Stokes Co., NC, died 11 Aug 1895 in Forsyth Co., NC). They were married 25 Nov 1824 in NC.

I have John's parents as Jacob Greter and his mother as Maria Frey.

I have lots of hooks into the Moravian church with other names also. In skimming the Crater line, I see an Elizabeth Crater (15 Jan 1787) who married a Johann Philip rominger. Romingers also end up in my family but I haven't worked on that line much.

My Bartholomew Co IN names include Essex, Rothrock, Hitchcock, Reed, Fetter, Zeigler, Carter, ect.

Diana

CURRENT INQUIRIES ABOUT SURNAME CRATER, GRETER, GRATER

pbolton2000 — 2008-04-01 04:03:29Z

I am interested in anyone who is doing research on the surname Crater, Greter, Grater from North Carolina. My grandfather was Benjamin Franklin (Frank) Crater from Yadkin County area. My ancesters came down from Pennsylvania (orginally from Germany). I know we also had some ancesters who moved to Hope, Indiana. I live in Indiana and plan to visit the old church in Hope. I do get to North Carolina quite often and would love to hear from anyone following this family line. My mother's maiden name is Crater. Look forward to hearing from anyone with this name in your ancestry.

Re: Adolph Scherer (Sherer) Tuscarawas Ohio Sharon Valley

mizer03 — 2008-02-22 00:34:52Z

I am a decendant of Ferdinand Sherer/Scherer/Scharer. Ferdinand and his wife Marie arrived in New York in 1867. They came from Switzerland. They settled in Goshen Twp., Tuscarawas Co. Ohio. His father's name was Jacob, but I don't know his mother's name.

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

2006Ancestors — 2008-01-09 18:33:03Z

In thinking about this, I am sure that the research was done for someone in San Diego who filled out a 4 generation card at the Del Mar Fairin 2005. We did "blind" research, meaning that we only had the information on the card, and all the information we found went to them. I think this might have been a family in Chula Vista. If you're up to it you could try cold calling any names in the San Diego area with this last name.

On the off chance it was someone who is in my church I will ask around, it might be a maiden name.

Alaska Children's Home

gussack — 2008-01-07 01:54:24Z

I am transcribing the 1930 Nunapitsingak Orphanage data to an Excel spreadsheet. Workers at the time were Busenius, Dahkle, Wilkins, and the Moore family.

If you would like a copy, want to add information, or discuss Alaska Moravian history, please contact me.

Timothy Miller
Bethel, Alaska

Re: MN church near Springfield/Comfrey area

dvpederson — 2008-01-05 18:23:57Z

Is there a chance Hans Peterson is Hans Christian Pederson? I have an ancestor that also went to the Morovian church you mentioned, spelling of Pedersen. I am looking for Little Cottonwood cemetery.

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

Atonia46 — 2008-01-04 14:15:29Z

Thank you for having a try. I picked her family from the census reports and hoped it was correct. I will keep looking.

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

2006Ancestors — 2008-01-04 04:51:21Z

I noticed that you already have parents on your family tree at:
http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?tid=666504&pid=...

And there are others who have her listed in their trees. It looks like I can't help you out, but be sure to list your request for information on the Rootsweb site message board for both the surname and North Carolina place name.

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

Atonia46 — 2008-01-03 01:55:19Z

Thanks for replying. If you can come up with ANYTHING on Nancy C. Martin's parents I would like to have the info. I have seen her middle name as Clouse, Close, and Clove. Do you know the correct name? She and George Seivers are buried in Loves Methodist Church Cemetary. The later family members were Moravian, I don't know about George and Nancy.

Re: BOECKEL, ROMINGER Davidson Co NC

Atonia46 — 2008-01-02 23:36:05Z

Did Elizabeth have brothers, Anthony, Alexander and Alfred? With the surname Pickle they are living with the William Weaver family in 1850. My connection: Christina Boeckel married William Weaver. William father of Paulina Weaver who married Thomas Disher whose daughter, Laura J. Disher married J.W. Seivers my g.grandparents.

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

2006Ancestors — 2008-01-02 22:09:36Z

Hi, I think this was a family line I was checking for some one last summer and no longer have any contact with them. I am so sorry about that. But let me see if I can find anything for you.
DS

Re: Weavil Family of North Carolina

Atonia46 — 2008-01-02 20:35:45Z

George L.Seivers was my g.g. grandfather. I believe I found him as having immigrated in 1857 through New Orleans. On the ships list he is listed as G.H. Seivers. The year of birth matches and he is from Bargen, Switzerland. That is as close as I can get and until I find something else, I am going with it. I cannot find anything else on his whereabouts from 1857 until 1861 when he married Nancy C. Martin. I have his descendents. I have very little on Nancy C. Martin's family and would appreciate your input. Thanks.
Atonia

Re: Bieginghausen, Huntzecker, Pevehouse

JPeavyhouse — 2007-12-08 01:26:21Z

1780 Elizabeth B. is their niece. Her father is 1744 John Biewighaus, son of 1708 Johannes George and Margaretha Huntzicker Biewighaus. Her mother is listed as Eva m.n. Becker 1752 Nathaniel and 1754 George are brothers to 1744 John. It is interesting to note that 1744 John's wife is usually listed as Catherine Smith and thus she must be his second wife. This info comes from 1780 Elizabeth's memoir written at the time of her death in Dec 1854, and on record at the Moravian Archives in Salem NC. She was a Single Sister. She arrived at Salem 29 Nov 1801.

Re: Bieginghausen, Huntzecker, Pevehouse

ElizHarris — 2007-12-07 01:29:13Z

Thanks for the additional information on George and Nathaniel.

Elizabeth Biewighaus was born 19 Nov 1780, died 3 Dec 1854 and is buried God's Acre in Salem NC. She was a single sister, a weaver, and held various offices in the Single Sisters' house. There are quite a few entries for her in the later volumes of the Records of the Moravians in NC.

Presumably she's related to George and Nathaniel somehow. Can anyone tell me how?

Re: Bieginghausen, Huntzecker, Pevehouse

JPeavyhouse — 2007-12-07 00:05:17Z

George Biewighausen b 1754 in PA, was the son of Johannes George(1707) and Margaretha Hunzuicker Biewighausen. 1754 George and his brother Nathaniel(b. 1752) were sent to the Moravian settlement at Bethabara(Salem), NC,by their father approx 1766. George married Christina Dixon and he died in 1806. They had no children. Nathaniel died in 1770 and is buried in the Bethabara cemetary. George and Christina are buried in the Moravian Cemetary in Salem, NC

Re: Pennsylvania Moravians, Gnaddehutten Massacre

lovestitchn — 2007-12-06 23:31:08Z

I am a descendant of Philip Servas who first set foot in America on August 27, 1739. He arrived at Philadelphia aboard the Samuel, an English ship commanded by Hugh Percy.

My ancestors were Moravians and escaped the massacre when they heard and smelled what was going on and ran to Nazareth to be helped by their fellow Moravians.

Lucy H.